1 00:00:24,900 --> 00:00:19,390 [Music] 2 00:00:28,519 --> 00:00:24,910 you're in the para cast the gold 3 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:28,529 standard of paranormal radio and now 4 00:00:37,380 --> 00:00:35,650 here's gene Steinberg so imagine if you 5 00:00:40,649 --> 00:00:37,390 build up a business for about 35 years 6 00:00:41,310 --> 00:00:40,659 and this big media company says we'll 7 00:00:44,369 --> 00:00:41,320 buy it 8 00:00:48,899 --> 00:00:44,379 for four billion dollars what do you say 9 00:00:50,939 --> 00:00:48,909 to that sounds like your bank would 10 00:00:51,780 --> 00:00:50,949 probably like that well first that was 11 00:00:55,410 --> 00:00:51,790 George Lucas 12 00:00:56,789 --> 00:00:55,420 he sold Star Wars to Disney and just as 13 00:00:59,280 --> 00:00:56,799 you thought there had been more than 14 00:01:01,619 --> 00:00:59,290 enough Star Wars movies six of them 15 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:01,629 who's going to be a seven and an eighth 16 00:01:06,929 --> 00:01:03,610 and a ninth I can't wait 17 00:01:09,179 --> 00:01:06,939 no I take that back I can wait does the 18 00:01:11,100 --> 00:01:09,189 world need more star wars think about 19 00:01:12,359 --> 00:01:11,110 that do we really need that that would 20 00:01:14,460 --> 00:01:12,369 dent Lee Disney think so 21 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:14,470 you know we were gonna have some 22 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:17,290 fascinating guests on and you could tell 23 00:01:23,309 --> 00:01:21,329 me the story but this particular guest 24 00:01:26,730 --> 00:01:23,319 situation I think was two people right 25 00:01:29,669 --> 00:01:26,740 where they felt that two hours was too 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:29,679 long to do a show and then decide two 27 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:31,329 hours wasn't enough would you explain 28 00:01:36,679 --> 00:01:33,490 this to me well we call Tom and Lee 29 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:36,689 Butler who have a trans trans 30 00:01:40,590 --> 00:01:39,969 communication website they're out of 31 00:01:42,629 --> 00:01:40,600 Nevada 32 00:01:45,709 --> 00:01:42,639 they've been involved for many years in 33 00:01:48,929 --> 00:01:45,719 EVP research and other ghost-type 34 00:01:52,260 --> 00:01:48,939 investigative work and yeah we we were 35 00:01:54,330 --> 00:01:52,270 asked by one of our listeners you know 36 00:01:56,309 --> 00:01:54,340 if we'd like to have some help getting 37 00:01:59,609 --> 00:01:56,319 some guests and they were suggested to 38 00:02:01,949 --> 00:01:59,619 us so we contacted them and at first 39 00:02:04,109 --> 00:02:01,959 they it kind of balked and said we're 40 00:02:06,389 --> 00:02:04,119 really busy and you know two hours 41 00:02:08,850 --> 00:02:06,399 seems like an awful long time and then 42 00:02:10,980 --> 00:02:08,860 we booked a taping session with them and 43 00:02:12,660 --> 00:02:10,990 then they cancelled saying that two 44 00:02:15,330 --> 00:02:12,670 hours wasn't enough time to cover all 45 00:02:16,620 --> 00:02:15,340 their materials so I don't know I guess 46 00:02:19,830 --> 00:02:16,630 you can't be all things to all people 47 00:02:21,990 --> 00:02:19,840 out there well this is part of it right 48 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:22,000 here it's either too long or it's too 49 00:02:26,700 --> 00:02:24,330 short and I know we had someone else 50 00:02:29,010 --> 00:02:26,710 interviewed what a year or two back 51 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:29,020 where we played recordings of EVP 52 00:02:33,370 --> 00:02:30,890 effects and we 53 00:02:36,130 --> 00:02:33,380 have enough time over the time it takes 54 00:02:38,140 --> 00:02:36,140 to record this show to cover all the 55 00:02:40,900 --> 00:02:38,150 recordings we had a kind of gloss over a 56 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:40,910 few things so it wasn't sufficient but 57 00:02:44,050 --> 00:02:42,530 we still had a pretty good show yeah 58 00:02:45,820 --> 00:02:44,060 that was with Michael Esposito if I 59 00:02:48,460 --> 00:02:45,830 remember right Michael Esposito is one 60 00:02:50,949 --> 00:02:48,470 of our more fascinating interviews and I 61 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:50,959 kind of sad that these other guests 62 00:02:56,050 --> 00:02:53,930 after all this decided not to come on 63 00:03:00,640 --> 00:02:56,060 maybe they heard of our reputation our 64 00:03:02,229 --> 00:03:00,650 reputation preceded us maybe well you're 65 00:03:03,300 --> 00:03:02,239 also in trying to get that time traveler 66 00:03:06,430 --> 00:03:03,310 on the show 67 00:03:08,740 --> 00:03:06,440 Andrew basashi oh right and Richard Doty 68 00:03:12,100 --> 00:03:08,750 and Whitley's Cheever we've had a number 69 00:03:13,780 --> 00:03:12,110 of guests that have expressed you know 70 00:03:15,910 --> 00:03:13,790 interest of coming on the show and then 71 00:03:19,390 --> 00:03:15,920 we booked them and they they canceled 72 00:03:22,750 --> 00:03:19,400 out well Richard Doty is probably the 73 00:03:24,699 --> 00:03:22,760 flakiest of the bunch I think yeah he is 74 00:03:27,180 --> 00:03:24,709 so defensive about what he does and you 75 00:03:29,640 --> 00:03:27,190 think if the guy has the guts to 76 00:03:32,710 --> 00:03:29,650 perpetrate all these disinformation 77 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:32,720 schemes or downright hoaxes like a 78 00:03:36,850 --> 00:03:34,250 project serpo or maybe he was 79 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:36,860 responsible for mj-12 but one of the 80 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:38,570 people responsible for the mj-12 81 00:03:43,390 --> 00:03:40,970 documents somebody who has the guts to 82 00:03:45,550 --> 00:03:43,400 do that would have the guts to sit for a 83 00:03:48,100 --> 00:03:45,560 couple of hours or so on a radio show 84 00:03:50,259 --> 00:03:48,110 and let us ask him questions he's an 85 00:03:54,190 --> 00:03:50,269 intelligence agent or an intelligence 86 00:03:54,910 --> 00:03:54,200 officer he can't answer questions yeah 87 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:54,920 exactly 88 00:04:00,280 --> 00:03:58,250 boy well maybe it may be the show's 89 00:04:03,009 --> 00:04:00,290 reputation does precede us to a certain 90 00:04:06,210 --> 00:04:03,019 degree well I I think we're pretty 91 00:04:09,490 --> 00:04:06,220 easygoing guys we don't really get to 92 00:04:11,350 --> 00:04:09,500 you know in people's faces unless they 93 00:04:13,060 --> 00:04:11,360 create an opening that would demands 94 00:04:15,490 --> 00:04:13,070 that and of course we're gonna jump 95 00:04:17,170 --> 00:04:15,500 through that opening well at that point 96 00:04:19,210 --> 00:04:17,180 they deserve it you know if I for 97 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:19,220 example we get criticism sometimes when 98 00:04:24,010 --> 00:04:22,130 we have a guest who tries to filibuster 99 00:04:26,650 --> 00:04:24,020 and let me explain about filibustering 100 00:04:28,029 --> 00:04:26,660 first filibustering is like you used to 101 00:04:30,610 --> 00:04:28,039 be able to do in Congress but not 102 00:04:33,250 --> 00:04:30,620 anymore now in the Senate you just say I 103 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:33,260 want to filibuster and they say okay 104 00:04:36,370 --> 00:04:35,090 you're gonna filibuster and therefore 105 00:04:38,020 --> 00:04:36,380 it's a filibuster you don't have to sit 106 00:04:39,250 --> 00:04:38,030 there read telephone books or anything 107 00:04:41,860 --> 00:04:39,260 like that and sit up all night 108 00:04:43,330 --> 00:04:41,870 we have guests who don't seem to 109 00:04:44,270 --> 00:04:43,340 understand this is a commercial radio 110 00:04:46,220 --> 00:04:44,280 show 111 00:04:48,530 --> 00:04:46,230 and every 9 10 minutes or so we have to 112 00:04:50,540 --> 00:04:48,540 do a break so they go on and on so I 113 00:04:53,150 --> 00:04:50,550 stopped them or they say something that 114 00:04:55,430 --> 00:04:53,160 appears to me to be particularly dumb so 115 00:04:56,330 --> 00:04:55,440 I stop them and say wait a minute let's 116 00:04:58,940 --> 00:04:56,340 talk about that 117 00:05:00,770 --> 00:04:58,950 so of course you then get listeners who 118 00:05:03,170 --> 00:05:00,780 say why did you interrupt the person 119 00:05:05,300 --> 00:05:03,180 well it's because they can't just talk 120 00:05:07,070 --> 00:05:05,310 and talk for 2-3 hours without 121 00:05:08,750 --> 00:05:07,080 interruption maybe they can do that 122 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:08,760 without taking a breath maybe they have 123 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:11,010 iron lungs I don't know but there are 124 00:05:14,620 --> 00:05:12,570 times we have to break and we have to 125 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:14,630 ask a question it's as simple as that 126 00:05:20,770 --> 00:05:19,050 now just to go back to the US Senate I 127 00:05:24,409 --> 00:05:20,780 was thinking of a Star Trek episode 128 00:05:28,730 --> 00:05:24,419 where they had a computer on both sides 129 00:05:31,310 --> 00:05:28,740 of a war playing computer games and when 130 00:05:32,990 --> 00:05:31,320 they kill somebody the physical 131 00:05:34,940 --> 00:05:33,000 representation of that person had to go 132 00:05:36,260 --> 00:05:34,950 into a disintegration chamber they said 133 00:05:36,860 --> 00:05:36,270 well you've just been killed I can do 134 00:05:40,580 --> 00:05:36,870 anything 135 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:40,590 yes but the computer defeated you on the 136 00:05:45,379 --> 00:05:42,690 screen so therefore you're dead so of 137 00:05:49,010 --> 00:05:45,389 course that were ended when people were 138 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:49,020 made to realize you can't do that you 139 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:51,450 can refuse you have the right to refuse 140 00:05:54,980 --> 00:05:53,130 to be killed in which case they were 141 00:05:57,710 --> 00:05:54,990 faced with the prospect of having a real 142 00:05:59,930 --> 00:05:57,720 war with real physical damage and 143 00:06:01,940 --> 00:05:59,940 suddenly they said let's settle this so 144 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:01,950 maybe the way to eliminate filibuster is 145 00:06:07,190 --> 00:06:04,650 in the US Senate is to say that if you 146 00:06:09,170 --> 00:06:07,200 want to filibuster that's fine you get 147 00:06:10,100 --> 00:06:09,180 up there and you read the phone book for 148 00:06:11,870 --> 00:06:10,110 three or four days 149 00:06:13,610 --> 00:06:11,880 and see how you like it that will stop 150 00:06:15,860 --> 00:06:13,620 it real fast yeah I didn't know that 151 00:06:18,110 --> 00:06:15,870 they'd change the rules right you just 152 00:06:20,420 --> 00:06:18,120 basically say I filibuster they don't 153 00:06:23,150 --> 00:06:20,430 sit there it's not like watching those 154 00:06:24,409 --> 00:06:23,160 movies from the 1940s where James 155 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:24,419 Stewart is sitting there with the phone 156 00:06:29,090 --> 00:06:27,810 book no hmm boy that you're making it 157 00:06:31,370 --> 00:06:29,100 easy on themselves that make all that 158 00:06:33,290 --> 00:06:31,380 money and they know they don't even have 159 00:06:35,810 --> 00:06:33,300 to get up there and in filibuster and 160 00:06:38,029 --> 00:06:35,820 pee in a bottle or something well I 161 00:06:42,830 --> 00:06:38,039 understand to have a special price on 162 00:06:44,630 --> 00:06:42,840 Catherine's and Congress but I think the 163 00:06:46,580 --> 00:06:44,640 reverse is true they just take extended 164 00:06:49,850 --> 00:06:46,590 vacations where some people would prefer 165 00:06:53,060 --> 00:06:49,860 that they take extended vacations for 166 00:06:55,190 --> 00:06:53,070 like ever yeah a permanent vacation that 167 00:06:57,140 --> 00:06:55,200 would be right that would be much more 168 00:06:58,010 --> 00:06:57,150 interesting there you go but we have 169 00:07:00,860 --> 00:06:58,020 some really fast 170 00:07:02,210 --> 00:07:00,870 shows that are coming up and I believe 171 00:07:04,939 --> 00:07:02,220 you booked one for next week as a matter 172 00:07:06,499 --> 00:07:04,949 of fact I did actually we're gonna have 173 00:07:09,980 --> 00:07:06,509 to book two because I'm going to be gone 174 00:07:13,129 --> 00:07:09,990 to Palenque okay I hope it's not 175 00:07:14,450 --> 00:07:13,139 contagious well we'll see I really love 176 00:07:17,170 --> 00:07:14,460 it down there it's the highlands of 177 00:07:21,460 --> 00:07:17,180 Chiapas just above the Guatemala border 178 00:07:24,499 --> 00:07:21,470 it's the zenith of the Classic Maya Maya 179 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:24,509 and the city of Palenque is just 180 00:07:29,270 --> 00:07:26,250 absolutely gorgeous the howler monkeys 181 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:29,280 and the wonderful people down there the 182 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:32,130 wonderful Maya it's gonna be quite fun 183 00:07:37,670 --> 00:07:35,250 by Zuni franc clifford mahooty was going 184 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:37,680 to go down with us but we were unable to 185 00:07:44,570 --> 00:07:41,490 find a suitable dialysis operation for 186 00:07:46,969 --> 00:07:44,580 him he he does undergo dialysis and so 187 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:46,979 david childress has decided to take his 188 00:07:49,610 --> 00:07:48,210 place so that's gonna be fun I've never 189 00:07:51,499 --> 00:07:49,620 actually traveled outside of the country 190 00:07:53,570 --> 00:07:51,509 with David so it's gonna be a lot of fun 191 00:07:56,290 --> 00:07:53,580 might be some interesting experiences 192 00:07:59,540 --> 00:07:56,300 we'll get you both back on here with a 193 00:08:04,159 --> 00:07:59,550 unseen report from both of you but today 194 00:08:07,399 --> 00:08:04,169 we're going to go to Missouri then okay 195 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:07,409 right we have March ek who went to 196 00:08:13,100 --> 00:08:10,490 Kansas City Kansas City here I come 197 00:08:15,140 --> 00:08:13,110 March ek by the way is a former 198 00:08:17,029 --> 00:08:15,150 professional musician but she's also 199 00:08:19,519 --> 00:08:17,039 been researching UFOs in the paranormal 200 00:08:21,559 --> 00:08:19,529 for over 30 years and currently she's 201 00:08:23,959 --> 00:08:21,569 assistant state director for Missouri 202 00:08:27,050 --> 00:08:23,969 MUFON and director of something called 203 00:08:30,140 --> 00:08:27,060 quest investigation group but she's here 204 00:08:32,209 --> 00:08:30,150 to talk about a UFO flap what was the 205 00:08:35,810 --> 00:08:32,219 last UFO flap oh there's been one in the 206 00:08:38,719 --> 00:08:35,820 Kansas City area as visitors to the para 207 00:08:41,659 --> 00:08:38,729 cast forums know full well so she is 208 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:41,669 going to be talking about that about all 209 00:08:47,329 --> 00:08:43,850 sorts of paranormal events such as 210 00:08:48,019 --> 00:08:47,339 cattle mutilations right right next to 211 00:08:51,380 --> 00:08:48,029 the airport 212 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:51,390 right some weird stuff is going on in 213 00:08:55,699 --> 00:08:53,850 Kansas City and almost makes me feel 214 00:08:57,380 --> 00:08:55,709 well maybe some other people want to go 215 00:08:59,090 --> 00:08:57,390 to Kansas City but maybe I want to scare 216 00:09:00,680 --> 00:08:59,100 away for a while but now we're gonna 217 00:09:02,930 --> 00:09:00,690 lose all our listeners in Kansas City 218 00:09:05,990 --> 00:09:02,940 because of this but there have been a 219 00:09:07,310 --> 00:09:06,000 number of really unusual cases she has 220 00:09:08,900 --> 00:09:07,320 been the thick of it and apparently 221 00:09:11,750 --> 00:09:08,910 she's writing a book called the Kansas 222 00:09:14,510 --> 00:09:11,760 City UFO flap so she has been collecting 223 00:09:17,300 --> 00:09:14,520 all this information and this my friends 224 00:09:21,050 --> 00:09:17,310 is going to be a pretty hardcore nuts 225 00:09:22,580 --> 00:09:21,060 and bolts UFO oriented episode but with 226 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:22,590 the cattle mutilations and other stuff 227 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:25,530 going on it's not all about UFOs there 228 00:09:29,450 --> 00:09:27,170 have 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comment or question about the para cast 341 00:14:12,970 --> 00:14:09,200 sent it to news at the para caste calm 342 00:14:14,949 --> 00:14:12,980 that's news at the para caste calm and 343 00:14:18,130 --> 00:14:14,959 don't forget to visit our famous para 344 00:14:22,030 --> 00:14:18,140 caste community forums at forum dot the 345 00:14:23,980 --> 00:14:22,040 para caste calm on the para cast this 346 00:14:26,590 --> 00:14:23,990 week we have Margie K assistant State 347 00:14:29,199 --> 00:14:26,600 Director for Missouri MUFON she's been 348 00:14:31,930 --> 00:14:29,209 involved in UFO and paranormal research 349 00:14:34,930 --> 00:14:31,940 for over thirty years and by the way 350 00:14:36,310 --> 00:14:34,940 that is not her day job so I just want 351 00:14:38,170 --> 00:14:36,320 to clarify that but 352 00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:38,180 welcome aboard Margie thanks for joining 353 00:14:41,889 --> 00:14:39,680 us on the power cast and very short 354 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:41,899 notice as a matter of fact well thanks 355 00:14:46,660 --> 00:14:43,970 so much it's my pleasure now I'm gonna 356 00:14:48,730 --> 00:14:46,670 ask you one simple question to get 357 00:14:50,590 --> 00:14:48,740 started but chris has a host of 358 00:14:52,660 --> 00:14:50,600 questions because he knows all the 359 00:14:55,780 --> 00:14:52,670 people in your area that you work with 360 00:14:58,030 --> 00:14:55,790 and has lots to talk about let's just 361 00:15:00,069 --> 00:14:58,040 get started here everybody has a story 362 00:15:03,460 --> 00:15:00,079 about getting involved in this crazy 363 00:15:06,460 --> 00:15:03,470 business what is yours oh well like many 364 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:06,470 many others I had my own sighting so you 365 00:15:10,090 --> 00:15:07,970 know I wanted to investigate and see 366 00:15:11,860 --> 00:15:10,100 what that was all about and and as a 367 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:11,870 result you know I opened a can of worms 368 00:15:16,810 --> 00:15:14,450 I had no idea what I was going to be 369 00:15:20,290 --> 00:15:16,820 getting into yeah my sighting was 370 00:15:24,069 --> 00:15:20,300 actually in 1986 when I was living in 371 00:15:27,699 --> 00:15:24,079 Seattle I had taken my girls out and my 372 00:15:29,410 --> 00:15:27,709 brother out into the country so that we 373 00:15:32,290 --> 00:15:29,420 could watch the meteor shower that was 374 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:32,300 happening in August and as we lay back 375 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:37,010 on the hood of the my 1968 Mustang we're 376 00:15:42,780 --> 00:15:38,810 watching this guy and all of a sudden 377 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:42,790 this star-like object came along and 378 00:15:49,210 --> 00:15:46,850 went directly above us and in front of 379 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:49,220 us and then stopped my brother said you 380 00:15:52,810 --> 00:15:50,810 know I thought that was a satellite but 381 00:15:55,210 --> 00:15:52,820 it looks like it stopped I said yeah 382 00:15:58,420 --> 00:15:55,220 that's kind of strange and then a second 383 00:16:00,730 --> 00:15:58,430 one came along the same trajectory and 384 00:16:02,710 --> 00:16:00,740 stopped at the same location it kind of 385 00:16:04,030 --> 00:16:02,720 looked like they joined together but you 386 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:04,040 know from that distance it was difficult 387 00:16:09,610 --> 00:16:06,890 to tell and then yet another one and 388 00:16:12,430 --> 00:16:09,620 another one so anyway five total of 389 00:16:14,980 --> 00:16:12,440 these objects that we thought were 390 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:14,990 satellites stopped at the same location 391 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:17,290 but when the fifth one got there it 392 00:16:21,580 --> 00:16:20,090 instantly looked like they all do 393 00:16:24,220 --> 00:16:21,590 together and they shot off at a 394 00:16:27,310 --> 00:16:24,230 90-degree angle at a super high rate of 395 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:27,320 speed and and out of sight so at that 396 00:16:30,670 --> 00:16:28,850 point I realized I was looking at 397 00:16:33,130 --> 00:16:30,680 something that was probably not from the 398 00:16:35,710 --> 00:16:33,140 service I'm gonna ask that deep question 399 00:16:37,810 --> 00:16:35,720 here that it was something unexplainable 400 00:16:40,390 --> 00:16:37,820 why do you leap to the conclusion it's 401 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:40,400 not of this earth well you know it's 402 00:16:45,430 --> 00:16:43,130 just your logical mind stepping in and 403 00:16:49,900 --> 00:16:45,440 at that time I didn't have any knowledge 404 00:16:53,620 --> 00:16:49,910 of super high speed super secret 405 00:16:55,900 --> 00:16:53,630 military aircraft and of course you know 406 00:16:59,860 --> 00:16:55,910 since then a lot more study on that and 407 00:17:02,410 --> 00:16:59,870 I and I realize now that certainly that 408 00:17:03,940 --> 00:17:02,420 may have been something of ours but 409 00:17:06,130 --> 00:17:03,950 that's what sparked my interest in 410 00:17:08,710 --> 00:17:06,140 getting into the UFO topic alright let's 411 00:17:10,870 --> 00:17:08,720 look at the possibility here ever since 412 00:17:13,270 --> 00:17:10,880 the late 40s when we have the modern UFO 413 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:13,280 era begin there was a feeling by some 414 00:17:19,150 --> 00:17:16,730 that at least a portion of those UFO 415 00:17:20,890 --> 00:17:19,160 sightings may have been our own craft 416 00:17:23,590 --> 00:17:20,900 maybe stuff we got from the Germans were 417 00:17:25,570 --> 00:17:23,600 playing with this we acquired all those 418 00:17:28,120 --> 00:17:25,580 German scientists we in the Russians and 419 00:17:30,610 --> 00:17:28,130 we had them do their thing and maybe 420 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:30,620 they doing their thing produce some of 421 00:17:35,350 --> 00:17:33,890 those sightings sure you know that there 422 00:17:37,930 --> 00:17:35,360 are a lot of theories and that's one of 423 00:17:40,060 --> 00:17:37,940 them the Germans were extremely advanced 424 00:17:43,870 --> 00:17:40,070 and there's a theory that they had their 425 00:17:47,220 --> 00:17:43,880 own Roswell incident and they back 426 00:17:49,690 --> 00:17:47,230 engineered so to speak some of that and 427 00:17:53,020 --> 00:17:49,700 they may have had some things before we 428 00:17:56,110 --> 00:17:53,030 did but the the fact remains that we 429 00:18:00,760 --> 00:17:56,120 still have so many things that are being 430 00:18:02,740 --> 00:18:00,770 reported that remain unexplained and of 431 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:02,750 course there are a lot of things that 432 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:05,690 our military has and in other countries 433 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:08,090 that you know they're not informing us 434 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:10,850 about in fact I just recently spoke with 435 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:12,290 someone who's ex-military 436 00:18:18,340 --> 00:18:15,650 and said that anything that we are aware 437 00:18:22,090 --> 00:18:18,350 of right now in the public that the 438 00:18:24,130 --> 00:18:22,100 military has produced is 50 years behind 439 00:18:26,170 --> 00:18:24,140 the times of what they actually really 440 00:18:28,030 --> 00:18:26,180 have the thing I worry about when you 441 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:28,040 hear that kind of theory though is what 442 00:18:32,430 --> 00:18:30,050 about the wars we get ourselves involved 443 00:18:34,860 --> 00:18:32,440 in so we go to Iraq we go 444 00:18:37,260 --> 00:18:34,870 to Afghanistan we have to deal with the 445 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:37,270 problems in Libya and rebellion in Syria 446 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:39,490 and all that stuff if we have this 447 00:18:45,180 --> 00:18:42,130 technology out there why aren't we using 448 00:18:48,710 --> 00:18:45,190 it you think of how of our troops have 449 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:48,720 been killed yeah that is a huge question 450 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:51,610 why indeed I don't have the answer to 451 00:18:55,350 --> 00:18:54,010 that well if there's a pair of two's on 452 00:18:58,950 --> 00:18:55,360 the table and you're sitting with a pair 453 00:19:01,350 --> 00:18:58,960 you're sitting with a pair of fours and 454 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:01,360 two two aces in the hole you're not 455 00:19:05,070 --> 00:19:03,850 you're just gonna just up and up and up 456 00:19:09,690 --> 00:19:05,080 the pot you're not going to show those 457 00:19:12,380 --> 00:19:09,700 hole cards unless you have to so it's 458 00:19:14,910 --> 00:19:12,390 used you have the danger of the enemy 459 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:14,920 capturing it and then reverse 460 00:19:20,570 --> 00:19:16,810 engineering it yeah I'm sure we're using 461 00:19:23,070 --> 00:19:20,580 all sorts of things Michael Esposito who 462 00:19:27,420 --> 00:19:23,080 we had on the show a couple of years 463 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:27,430 back was a was a psyops officer in in 464 00:19:32,430 --> 00:19:29,890 the first Desert Storm and he kind of 465 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:32,440 hinted around at some acoustic weaponry 466 00:19:39,450 --> 00:19:36,330 that we used and some psychotronic 467 00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:39,460 weapons platforms any he kind of 468 00:19:44,190 --> 00:19:41,440 reminded me of em remember the footage 469 00:19:46,050 --> 00:19:44,200 of those those Iraqi soldiers coming out 470 00:19:48,030 --> 00:19:46,060 and kissing the feet of our of our 471 00:19:50,100 --> 00:19:48,040 soldiers and an appearance just totally 472 00:19:52,140 --> 00:19:50,110 shaken he said it wasn't by accident 473 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:52,150 those guys came out like that I mean we 474 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:53,770 were unleashing some pretty 475 00:19:59,040 --> 00:19:56,290 sophisticated technology that you don't 476 00:20:01,340 --> 00:19:59,050 hear about every day so the same may 477 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:01,350 hold true I think in the in the realm of 478 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:03,850 Aeronautics as well of course the work 479 00:20:08,010 --> 00:20:06,010 of Joseph Farrell Henry Stevens 480 00:20:10,710 --> 00:20:08,020 there's a number of very very 481 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:10,720 interesting research projects that have 482 00:20:14,490 --> 00:20:11,890 been going on for quite some time 483 00:20:16,490 --> 00:20:14,500 looking into the level of German 484 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:16,500 technology at the end of World War two 485 00:20:22,290 --> 00:20:18,730 viktor schauberger and the vortex 486 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:22,300 implosion device is circular devices and 487 00:20:26,070 --> 00:20:24,370 there are a number of them and there is 488 00:20:28,110 --> 00:20:26,080 a paper trail you know how do we know 489 00:20:30,540 --> 00:20:28,120 Roswell wasn't the Germans coming up 490 00:20:32,430 --> 00:20:30,550 from Argentina just kind of spookiness 491 00:20:35,850 --> 00:20:32,440 with with a flyover and then 492 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:35,860 inadvertently getting crashing from my 493 00:20:40,190 --> 00:20:37,570 in a lightning storm I mean there's so 494 00:20:42,690 --> 00:20:40,200 many possibilities there's so many 495 00:20:44,670 --> 00:20:42,700 alternate scenarios that that I think we 496 00:20:45,789 --> 00:20:44,680 we shouldn't factor out or we shouldn't 497 00:20:48,549 --> 00:20:45,799 factor in but we 498 00:20:50,259 --> 00:20:48,559 at least be aware of those so I'm I 499 00:20:52,419 --> 00:20:50,269 agree with you totally Margie about the 500 00:20:53,919 --> 00:20:52,429 state of the leveling in state of 501 00:20:55,659 --> 00:20:53,929 Technology generally something that 502 00:20:57,399 --> 00:20:55,669 becomes operational now has been 503 00:20:59,590 --> 00:20:57,409 operational for fifteen to twenty years 504 00:21:02,409 --> 00:20:59,600 so you know if you'd seen a stealth 505 00:21:04,869 --> 00:21:02,419 fighter in 79 fly over you and Nevada 506 00:21:07,659 --> 00:21:04,879 desert you would have seen a UFO oh sure 507 00:21:10,649 --> 00:21:07,669 and and I believe that a lot of the 508 00:21:13,779 --> 00:21:10,659 triangular craft that we're seeing are 509 00:21:16,810 --> 00:21:13,789 actually ours because the evidence is 510 00:21:20,919 --> 00:21:16,820 that there are so many of them and they 511 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:20,929 fly low to the ground and they're near 512 00:21:28,450 --> 00:21:23,690 many of the air bases especially out in 513 00:21:30,759 --> 00:21:28,460 your neck of the woods yeah we've got 514 00:21:33,999 --> 00:21:30,769 white men 50 miles from Kansas City and 515 00:21:35,830 --> 00:21:34,009 a lot of sightings of the b2 everybody 516 00:21:38,139 --> 00:21:35,840 in this neck of the woods knows exactly 517 00:21:40,090 --> 00:21:38,149 what the B team looks like you know it's 518 00:21:43,330 --> 00:21:40,100 not surprising that that that that still 519 00:21:46,899 --> 00:21:43,340 it's you know we get some reports of 520 00:21:48,519 --> 00:21:46,909 UFOs and it's actually the b2 but that 521 00:21:50,889 --> 00:21:48,529 doesn't rule out the possibility that 522 00:21:54,009 --> 00:21:50,899 there are still you know may possibly 523 00:21:55,450 --> 00:21:54,019 otherworldly craft that look similar you 524 00:21:58,060 --> 00:21:55,460 got the ones that take off in the blink 525 00:22:00,220 --> 00:21:58,070 of an eye I think the jury's still out 526 00:22:02,229 --> 00:22:00,230 on the level of our technology with the 527 00:22:03,489 --> 00:22:02,239 the black triangles but generally 528 00:22:05,009 --> 00:22:03,499 they're thought to be lighter than air 529 00:22:08,109 --> 00:22:05,019 and in slow-moving 530 00:22:11,919 --> 00:22:08,119 you know most of them are slow-moving 531 00:22:14,859 --> 00:22:11,929 here and one of the strange things 532 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:14,869 though that that's fairly new is that 533 00:22:21,399 --> 00:22:17,450 some of the reports I'm getting are that 534 00:22:24,279 --> 00:22:21,409 they simply disappear but we know I mean 535 00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:24,289 it's even been on like History Channel 536 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:26,809 where they've shown the technology to 537 00:22:32,229 --> 00:22:29,570 make things invisible right on invisible 538 00:22:34,599 --> 00:22:32,239 suits or on the planes themselves they 539 00:22:36,220 --> 00:22:34,609 put cameras on the opposite side so you 540 00:22:36,909 --> 00:22:36,230 know that certainly could be one of ours 541 00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:36,919 as well 542 00:22:41,619 --> 00:22:38,960 we'll get into cloaking devices and more 543 00:22:48,270 --> 00:22:41,629 a lot more we have Marty Kay joining 544 00:22:55,060 --> 00:22:51,880 the GZ and Radio Network providing the 545 00:22:59,560 --> 00:22:55,070 world with hard-hitting talk radio G C 546 00:23:01,930 --> 00:22:59,570 and gray talk radio starts here if you 547 00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:01,940 want to get your website online and you 548 00:23:06,340 --> 00:23:04,400 need reliable 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00:26:54,110 --> 00:26:50,040 peace of mind for both of you call eight 648 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:54,120 seven seven five FA ke TV or go to fake 649 00:27:03,230 --> 00:26:57,690 TV calm bake t v-- calm the burglar 650 00:27:06,140 --> 00:27:03,240 deterrent hi this is Don Ecker and you 651 00:27:08,030 --> 00:27:06,150 are tuned in to the para cast let me 652 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:08,040 tell you what you're gonna hear stuff 653 00:27:14,740 --> 00:27:10,770 here that you probably won't hear 654 00:27:17,390 --> 00:27:14,750 anywhere else hear that George Noory 655 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:17,400 margie kay who is the assistant state 656 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:19,290 director from missouri MUFON joining us 657 00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:21,810 we're going to be segwaying into the 658 00:27:26,620 --> 00:27:24,000 Kansas City UFO flap momentarily but 659 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:26,630 right now we're talking about secret 660 00:27:32,450 --> 00:27:30,090 weapons being mistaken for UFOs about 661 00:27:35,150 --> 00:27:32,460 possible clothing devices and stuff like 662 00:27:36,740 --> 00:27:35,160 that advanced technology but do you 663 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:36,750 think you folks at MUFON have a pretty 664 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:38,610 good handle over which sightings are 665 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:40,890 possibly caused by secret weapons and 666 00:27:46,550 --> 00:27:44,850 which are just unexplained oh no no I 667 00:27:50,690 --> 00:27:46,560 don't think we have a handle on that at 668 00:27:53,570 --> 00:27:50,700 all I think you know we're all we're all 669 00:27:56,180 --> 00:27:53,580 in a learning phase and we wish fact 670 00:27:58,460 --> 00:27:56,190 gathering phase if we knew that we would 671 00:28:00,830 --> 00:27:58,470 have the super top secret clearance 672 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:00,840 somewhere but you know that's not the 673 00:28:05,930 --> 00:28:03,090 case those of us put soldiers on the 674 00:28:08,570 --> 00:28:05,940 ground are you know our job is to 675 00:28:10,970 --> 00:28:08,580 collect evidence and report that you 676 00:28:14,019 --> 00:28:10,980 know and file it and others actually do 677 00:28:16,539 --> 00:28:14,029 I don't know what they do 678 00:28:19,180 --> 00:28:16,549 view that and you know maybe investigate 679 00:28:20,619 --> 00:28:19,190 it further but you know in some cases I 680 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:20,629 don't think they get investigated any 681 00:28:26,469 --> 00:28:23,090 further than what we do on the ground 682 00:28:28,629 --> 00:28:26,479 now one thing I'm gonna ask about this 683 00:28:30,609 --> 00:28:28,639 when you talk to people who have had UFO 684 00:28:32,469 --> 00:28:30,619 sightings do you probe into whether 685 00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:32,479 they've had other paranormal type 686 00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:36,320 encounters well that's not a standard 687 00:28:42,489 --> 00:28:38,960 thing with most of what MUFON does 688 00:28:44,619 --> 00:28:42,499 however we do have some fairly new 689 00:28:45,549 --> 00:28:44,629 questions on a report form that have to 690 00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:45,559 do with that 691 00:28:54,060 --> 00:28:49,369 so yeah the consensus is that when a 692 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:54,070 person has UFO sighting and reports it 693 00:28:57,369 --> 00:28:56,210 generally what we find is that there's 694 00:29:01,810 --> 00:28:57,379 more to the story 695 00:29:03,639 --> 00:29:01,820 and so in questioning you know after the 696 00:29:04,299 --> 00:29:03,649 basics from the sighting has been 697 00:29:07,089 --> 00:29:04,309 obtained 698 00:29:09,009 --> 00:29:07,099 we'll find out that they have had other 699 00:29:12,159 --> 00:29:09,019 UFO sightings maybe Close Encounters 700 00:29:15,249 --> 00:29:12,169 maybe some paranormal events happen and 701 00:29:17,829 --> 00:29:15,259 it seems to be pretty common that people 702 00:29:20,139 --> 00:29:17,839 who are et experiencers or UFO 703 00:29:24,009 --> 00:29:20,149 experiencers you know that's what we 704 00:29:26,889 --> 00:29:24,019 call that category do have other strange 705 00:29:29,739 --> 00:29:26,899 unexplained things happen well let's 706 00:29:32,079 --> 00:29:29,749 look at the story of Kansas City what's 707 00:29:34,060 --> 00:29:32,089 happening there is there a history a 708 00:29:37,450 --> 00:29:34,070 large history for the benefit of our 709 00:29:40,289 --> 00:29:37,460 listeners of lots of UFO encounters in 710 00:29:44,469 --> 00:29:40,299 and around the Kansas City area well 711 00:29:48,430 --> 00:29:44,479 historically we had a UFO flap in 712 00:29:51,609 --> 00:29:48,440 Missouri in 1973 and 74 and this 713 00:29:53,950 --> 00:29:51,619 coincided with many Bigfoot sightings as 714 00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:53,960 well across the state fact they call 715 00:29:59,459 --> 00:29:57,440 Bigfoot here the Missouri mo mo now a 716 00:30:03,339 --> 00:29:59,469 lot of people think the two of those 717 00:30:07,629 --> 00:30:03,349 phenomena are related but from that 718 00:30:10,810 --> 00:30:07,639 period until 2011 Missouri was actually 719 00:30:12,279 --> 00:30:10,820 pretty quiet we didn't have a whole lot 720 00:30:16,089 --> 00:30:12,289 of sightings if you go back through the 721 00:30:19,239 --> 00:30:16,099 archives there's very little there we 722 00:30:24,159 --> 00:30:19,249 did have in the year 2000 I'm sure you 723 00:30:27,820 --> 00:30:24,169 remember the big Illinois UFO flap where 724 00:30:30,370 --> 00:30:27,830 they saw this well I don't want to call 725 00:30:33,159 --> 00:30:30,380 flat because it was a single sighting a 726 00:30:36,399 --> 00:30:33,169 large triangular craft flew over many 727 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:36,409 counties in Illinois and actually traced 728 00:30:44,110 --> 00:30:40,250 the path of this well we just recently 729 00:30:46,930 --> 00:30:44,120 got a report from a fireman in Missouri 730 00:30:49,419 --> 00:30:46,940 who saw the same thing so it actually 731 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:49,429 now we can follow that path into 732 00:30:56,500 --> 00:30:52,730 Missouri and then going north and this 733 00:31:00,549 --> 00:30:56,510 is on the west side of st. Louis in that 734 00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:00,559 general vicinity well other than that 735 00:31:07,210 --> 00:31:03,110 one big thing there hasn't been much and 736 00:31:11,169 --> 00:31:07,220 then in 2011 we just started getting 737 00:31:15,029 --> 00:31:11,179 inundated with a lot of sighting reports 738 00:31:18,340 --> 00:31:15,039 and starting with in April of 2011 739 00:31:20,139 --> 00:31:18,350 starting with a retired police officer 740 00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:20,149 in Raytown Missouri which is right next 741 00:31:27,879 --> 00:31:23,809 to Kansas City saw not only triangular 742 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:27,889 craft over his backyard hovering but an 743 00:31:34,779 --> 00:31:31,610 entity in his backyard and that's when 744 00:31:37,090 --> 00:31:34,789 the craziness just just started I mean 745 00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:37,100 it was like this floodgates opened and 746 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:40,880 we started getting reports increasing 747 00:31:45,970 --> 00:31:43,730 and increasing every month and levels of 748 00:31:49,180 --> 00:31:45,980 high strangeness of Close Encounters and 749 00:31:51,730 --> 00:31:49,190 missing time and paranormal events 750 00:31:56,830 --> 00:31:51,740 associated with these things until we 751 00:32:00,190 --> 00:31:56,840 get to October of 2011 when we had 87 752 00:32:03,310 --> 00:32:00,200 sighting reports in the state and we 753 00:32:04,750 --> 00:32:03,320 were actually we had more reports in our 754 00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:04,760 state than anywhere else in the world 755 00:32:13,090 --> 00:32:09,529 during that month so the cause of some 756 00:32:14,860 --> 00:32:13,100 of that has been determined we found 757 00:32:18,399 --> 00:32:14,870 that there were two flying teams in 758 00:32:21,700 --> 00:32:18,409 October on the 4th and on the 31st that 759 00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:21,710 flew over the Chiefs Stadium here they 760 00:32:26,289 --> 00:32:24,529 were their unusual in fact that most 761 00:32:29,529 --> 00:32:26,299 people had not ever seen anything like 762 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:29,539 this and what they are is this elite 763 00:32:35,710 --> 00:32:32,090 team that flies in close formation with 764 00:32:37,659 --> 00:32:35,720 6 or 7 planes and they have these very 765 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:37,669 bright flashing strobe lights all over 766 00:32:41,650 --> 00:32:40,730 the plains so from a distance they 767 00:32:47,260 --> 00:32:41,660 actually look 768 00:32:49,510 --> 00:32:47,270 like one large UFO and so they they 769 00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:49,520 accounted for several of the reports 770 00:32:56,260 --> 00:32:52,880 that we got in however that was only 771 00:32:59,380 --> 00:32:56,270 four or five reports out of the 87 for 772 00:33:02,320 --> 00:32:59,390 the state so we still had a lot that are 773 00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:02,330 unexplained now looking specifically the 774 00:33:07,390 --> 00:33:05,510 cases in more detail which ones seemed 775 00:33:10,050 --> 00:33:07,400 the most sensational in the sense they 776 00:33:11,470 --> 00:33:10,060 have more data more indications of being 777 00:33:16,690 --> 00:33:11,480 unknowns 778 00:33:22,210 --> 00:33:16,700 well we let's go back to May May 7th 779 00:33:25,810 --> 00:33:22,220 2011 I went to do an investigation in 780 00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:25,820 st. Louis and interview a man there who 781 00:33:32,890 --> 00:33:29,120 claims to have been in contact with ETS 782 00:33:34,930 --> 00:33:32,900 since he was aged 12 and he's 63 now now 783 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:34,940 contacting the sense of meeting physical 784 00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:37,610 beings meeting physical beings at 785 00:33:45,670 --> 00:33:42,080 specified locations once or twice a 786 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:45,680 month is when this this man claimed to 787 00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:49,010 have done this now they're they're a 788 00:33:52,900 --> 00:33:51,440 series of events occurred which made me 789 00:33:56,490 --> 00:33:52,910 believe that this might have been the 790 00:33:59,830 --> 00:33:56,500 real thing and so I went out and 791 00:34:01,150 --> 00:33:59,840 interviewed this man when we got to the 792 00:34:01,780 --> 00:34:01,160 location where we were going to do the 793 00:34:05,820 --> 00:34:01,790 interview 794 00:34:08,620 --> 00:34:05,830 my camera battery completely drained I 795 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:08,630 picked up another battery installed it 796 00:34:13,419 --> 00:34:10,370 and I have a really good Sony 797 00:34:17,020 --> 00:34:13,429 professional camera video camera and 798 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:17,030 then that one completely drained so I 799 00:34:21,130 --> 00:34:19,370 was not able to use my camera but 800 00:34:23,110 --> 00:34:21,140 Debbie's iggle Mayer was with me 801 00:34:26,350 --> 00:34:23,120 she's our state director and so she 802 00:34:29,290 --> 00:34:26,360 videotaped the interview I interviewed 803 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:29,300 this man for two and a half hours and 804 00:34:35,740 --> 00:34:31,970 write in about 30 minutes before the end 805 00:34:38,650 --> 00:34:35,750 of the interview I suddenly the energy 806 00:34:39,850 --> 00:34:38,660 about the area changed and I'm only 807 00:34:41,260 --> 00:34:39,860 telling you the story because I think 808 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:41,270 it's related to the Kansas City events 809 00:34:46,630 --> 00:34:44,330 the energy about the area changed how'd 810 00:34:50,350 --> 00:34:46,640 you sense that well it was just 811 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:50,360 something that it's difficult to explain 812 00:34:55,060 --> 00:34:52,970 but I noticed that there was something 813 00:34:55,409 --> 00:34:55,070 different going on and my attention was 814 00:34:58,470 --> 00:34:55,419 drawn 815 00:35:03,930 --> 00:34:58,480 to the sky above us and slightly to my 816 00:35:07,319 --> 00:35:03,940 right so I just very quietly said to 817 00:35:10,829 --> 00:35:07,329 Debbie film up there and I pointed and 818 00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:10,839 then I continued my interview with this 819 00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:14,950 gentleman and so she she aimed her 820 00:35:19,980 --> 00:35:16,480 camera in that direction and she took 821 00:35:21,420 --> 00:35:19,990 some video and stills even though we 822 00:35:26,099 --> 00:35:21,430 couldn't see anything with the naked eye 823 00:35:28,890 --> 00:35:26,109 so I finished the interview and I had a 824 00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:28,900 sense that there actually was some type 825 00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:33,760 of energy or entity with us during this 826 00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:36,400 interview although we couldn't 827 00:35:41,069 --> 00:35:39,040 physically see anything we should 828 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:41,079 mention here too that you've also been 829 00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:43,450 involved in ghost investigations yes 830 00:35:49,890 --> 00:35:47,920 okay yes and and again that started when 831 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:49,900 I was much younger and I actually had my 832 00:35:55,349 --> 00:35:52,210 first ghost sighting so yeah I'm a 833 00:36:00,030 --> 00:35:55,359 paranormal investigator as well although 834 00:36:02,220 --> 00:36:00,040 I felt like this was et related at the 835 00:36:05,309 --> 00:36:02,230 time although I had no proof of that 836 00:36:07,530 --> 00:36:05,319 okay so I just want to 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advertise it as 950 00:40:49,810 --> 00:40:48,020 weight loss 951 00:40:52,930 --> 00:40:49,820 I want to challenge our radio listeners 952 00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:52,940 to go to Mpho wars team comm sign up as 953 00:41:02,120 --> 00:40:55,280 a distributor and get wholesale pricing 954 00:41:06,810 --> 00:41:04,380 this is Leslie Kane and I'm with the 955 00:41:10,770 --> 00:41:06,820 Coalition for freedom of information and 956 00:41:12,690 --> 00:41:10,780 you are listening to the podcast with 957 00:41:13,770 --> 00:41:12,700 gene Steinberg and Chris O'Brien we 958 00:41:16,770 --> 00:41:13,780 joined margie kay 959 00:41:18,660 --> 00:41:16,780 who's telling us about some unusual 960 00:41:20,820 --> 00:41:18,670 encounters in missouri and you were 961 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:20,830 telling us in this particular case you 962 00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:24,130 had the feeling an ET was there but you 963 00:41:32,180 --> 00:41:28,510 didn't see it that's correct okay on 964 00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:32,190 Debbie's camera or yes okay yes there 965 00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:34,960 someone anomalous things showed up in 966 00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:36,730 that photo and in the photos that she 967 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:39,520 took in a couple of them especially you 968 00:41:44,130 --> 00:41:42,010 can tell that there's something in the 969 00:41:46,050 --> 00:41:44,140 clouds and right in the area where I 970 00:41:48,030 --> 00:41:46,060 pointed so I had a sense that something 971 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:48,040 was there didn't see it asked her to 972 00:41:52,110 --> 00:41:49,930 photograph it and then it showed up on 973 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:52,120 the photo now I don't really understand 974 00:41:58,410 --> 00:41:54,610 how this works but it's you know it's 975 00:42:00,600 --> 00:41:58,420 some form of sensitivity that I have do 976 00:42:02,610 --> 00:42:00,610 these things and that's all I can say 977 00:42:05,820 --> 00:42:02,620 I'm really not going to understand how 978 00:42:08,310 --> 00:42:05,830 it works so anyway how this leads to 979 00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:08,320 Kansas City I left st. Louis during to 980 00:42:14,370 --> 00:42:12,400 Kansas City I am on i-70 right outside 981 00:42:18,030 --> 00:42:14,380 of Odessa which is not far from Kansas 982 00:42:20,580 --> 00:42:18,040 City and once again I suddenly get the 983 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:20,590 feeling that there's something in the 984 00:42:26,070 --> 00:42:23,890 sky so I took my cell phone camera and 985 00:42:28,770 --> 00:42:26,080 stuck it outside the window of the car 986 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:28,780 while I'm driving 70 miles an hour I 987 00:42:32,850 --> 00:42:30,810 think I slowed down a little bit and 988 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:32,860 snapped a picture and then I just 989 00:42:38,250 --> 00:42:35,170 quickly looked at it and there was 990 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:38,260 something there so I pulled over at the 991 00:42:44,370 --> 00:42:41,170 Odessa exit looked outside my vehicle 992 00:42:45,900 --> 00:42:44,380 and I could see nothing but I still 993 00:42:49,710 --> 00:42:45,910 sensed there was something there so I 994 00:42:51,930 --> 00:42:49,720 took another picture and there is this 995 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:51,940 picture of a UFO I mean this brilliant 996 00:43:01,110 --> 00:42:56,650 UFO is on there so I had a sense that 997 00:43:04,050 --> 00:43:01,120 this was related to my interview in st. 998 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:04,060 Louis that this UFO actually followed me 999 00:43:11,310 --> 00:43:07,450 back to Kansas City now of course this 1000 00:43:13,109 --> 00:43:11,320 is only a speculation I have no proof 1001 00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:13,119 that this is actually what happened but 1002 00:43:18,799 --> 00:43:15,609 next over the next week some very 1003 00:43:21,690 --> 00:43:18,809 strange things would happen the next day 1004 00:43:23,339 --> 00:43:21,700 people in Blue Springs Missouri which is 1005 00:43:25,230 --> 00:43:23,349 not far from where this incident 1006 00:43:28,769 --> 00:43:25,240 occurred I mean we're talking about a 1007 00:43:32,359 --> 00:43:28,779 few miles from this people started 1008 00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:32,369 reporting hearing Apache helicopters 1009 00:43:36,450 --> 00:43:34,569 leaving the Lee's Summit 1010 00:43:38,460 --> 00:43:36,460 Regional Airport which is a small 1011 00:43:40,739 --> 00:43:38,470 airport and those helicopters have never 1012 00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:40,749 been seen there before by anybody that 1013 00:43:46,799 --> 00:43:44,079 I've talked to and they would see and 1014 00:43:48,809 --> 00:43:46,809 hear these helicopters one would go up 1015 00:43:50,900 --> 00:43:48,819 the other one would come back and then 1016 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:50,910 another woman caught for 24 hours a day 1017 00:43:58,230 --> 00:43:54,130 they were going in what appeared to be 1018 00:44:02,190 --> 00:43:58,240 search patterns in that area and on the 1019 00:44:05,309 --> 00:44:02,200 seventh day they were gone on our on the 1020 00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:05,319 like the sixth day that night the next 1021 00:44:12,029 --> 00:44:09,730 morning we got a report from an 1022 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:12,039 insurance agent and three other people 1023 00:44:19,109 --> 00:44:15,249 who had stopped on i-4 35 in Kansas City 1024 00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:19,119 and they reported seeing 125 orange 1025 00:44:24,450 --> 00:44:21,910 balls of light shooting up from a tree 1026 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:24,460 line right along the highway and then 1027 00:44:29,579 --> 00:44:27,130 going up into the sky into the clouds at 1028 00:44:31,559 --> 00:44:29,589 the exact same location a hundred 1029 00:44:35,099 --> 00:44:31,569 twenty-five is that mean you actually 1030 00:44:37,979 --> 00:44:35,109 counted this they counted it when one of 1031 00:44:39,809 --> 00:44:37,989 the men counted it okay he counted them 1032 00:44:41,970 --> 00:44:39,819 he said what would happen is one would 1033 00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:41,980 come out it would split into three and 1034 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:44,529 then go up and another one would come 1035 00:44:49,049 --> 00:44:46,930 out split into three they'd go along 1036 00:44:50,999 --> 00:44:49,059 this tree line in about 6070 miles an 1037 00:44:53,279 --> 00:44:51,009 hour and then go up in the sky and they 1038 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:53,289 all went to the same location above the 1039 00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:55,690 clouds they couldn't see you know what 1040 00:45:00,930 --> 00:44:58,450 was there above the clouds but you know 1041 00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:00,940 here are these balls of light one of the 1042 00:45:05,759 --> 00:45:02,730 gentlemen that stopped on the highway 1043 00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:05,769 called a friend of his who was further 1044 00:45:12,779 --> 00:45:10,089 south at the 63rd Street area and he 1045 00:45:15,569 --> 00:45:12,789 took 13 pictures of these orbs that I 1046 00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:15,579 have so here we have some documentation 1047 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:18,880 we've got you know a reputable witness 1048 00:45:25,109 --> 00:45:21,249 I've got another witness who will not 1049 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:25,119 let me say his name but he was with it 1050 00:45:31,229 --> 00:45:27,130 the other man at the same time 1051 00:45:33,930 --> 00:45:31,239 and then the the very next morning at 4 1052 00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:33,940 a.m. in the morning going back over to 1053 00:45:40,019 --> 00:45:37,089 the Blue Springs area in in Lee's Summit 1054 00:45:43,019 --> 00:45:40,029 which is right next to Blue Springs so 1055 00:45:45,509 --> 00:45:43,029 five people were leaving work and they 1056 00:45:49,739 --> 00:45:45,519 were driving four o'clock in the morning 1057 00:45:53,509 --> 00:45:49,749 driving home they see a mile-wide silver 1058 00:45:57,839 --> 00:45:53,519 metallic disc going very very slowly 1059 00:46:00,210 --> 00:45:57,849 directly east with three lights on the 1060 00:46:03,749 --> 00:46:00,220 bottom of it with two round lights and 1061 00:46:06,029 --> 00:46:03,759 one long light which is kind of odd mile 1062 00:46:09,089 --> 00:46:06,039 wide now how they determine that size 1063 00:46:11,789 --> 00:46:09,099 just a guess yes 1064 00:46:13,890 --> 00:46:11,799 they showed me the area they drew 1065 00:46:16,289 --> 00:46:13,900 pictures I had each person draw pictures 1066 00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:16,299 in a different room they all came up 1067 00:46:22,229 --> 00:46:18,160 with the same thing there were all 1068 00:46:23,849 --> 00:46:22,239 credible witnesses one of the radius TV 1069 00:46:26,130 --> 00:46:23,859 stations got involved in this and 1070 00:46:30,180 --> 00:46:26,140 interviewed all of these witnesses this 1071 00:46:33,690 --> 00:46:30,190 is all on YouTube and on the station I 1072 00:46:35,489 --> 00:46:33,700 think it's KCTV 5 that did it so you 1073 00:46:37,349 --> 00:46:35,499 know we've got a lot of documentation a 1074 00:46:38,940 --> 00:46:37,359 lot of different witnesses and then I 1075 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:38,950 had other witnesses in different 1076 00:46:45,930 --> 00:46:41,410 locations that claimed to have also seen 1077 00:46:46,890 --> 00:46:45,940 this large disc so these are from a 1078 00:46:49,499 --> 00:46:46,900 different area 1079 00:46:54,029 --> 00:46:49,509 margene the same thing going back to 1080 00:46:55,709 --> 00:46:54,039 that original interesting six day time 1081 00:46:59,309 --> 00:46:55,719 period where it appears that the 1082 00:47:01,979 --> 00:46:59,319 military kind of had a character I guess 1083 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:01,989 for that particular airfield though was 1084 00:47:08,190 --> 00:47:05,130 conducting around-the-clock flights 1085 00:47:10,589 --> 00:47:08,200 obviously Yorick weighting that with the 1086 00:47:12,599 --> 00:47:10,599 appearance of the hundred and fifty orbs 1087 00:47:14,940 --> 00:47:12,609 the fifty orbs that split into three I 1088 00:47:17,539 --> 00:47:14,950 guess now how do we know that that 1089 00:47:20,849 --> 00:47:17,549 wasn't some sort of a military project 1090 00:47:22,049 --> 00:47:20,859 or something terrestrial as opposed to 1091 00:47:24,509 --> 00:47:22,059 something high strange or 1092 00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:24,519 extraterrestrial well it may have been 1093 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:26,319 it may have just been a strange 1094 00:47:31,829 --> 00:47:29,890 coincidence but it's just one of those 1095 00:47:33,660 --> 00:47:31,839 things that's extremely odd because 1096 00:47:36,539 --> 00:47:33,670 we're talking about it small regional 1097 00:47:39,870 --> 00:47:36,549 airports and these were fully armed 1098 00:47:40,740 --> 00:47:39,880 Apache helicopters doing apparent search 1099 00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:40,750 patterns 1100 00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:42,730 night you know right over people's 1101 00:47:49,530 --> 00:47:47,200 houses that's extremely odd and you know 1102 00:47:51,270 --> 00:47:49,540 you just don't hear that I'm in all 1103 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:51,280 years I've been doing investigations 1104 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:53,530 it's extremely rare to hear something 1105 00:47:57,720 --> 00:47:55,450 like that in it's really hard not to 1106 00:48:00,090 --> 00:47:57,730 know it's really hard not to make the 1107 00:48:01,740 --> 00:48:00,100 leap that somehow the events were were 1108 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:01,750 connected I find it interesting as soon 1109 00:48:05,130 --> 00:48:03,370 as all the choppers leave the following 1110 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:05,140 day you have such a dramatic sighting 1111 00:48:12,270 --> 00:48:08,290 yes and then if you look at a Google 1112 00:48:15,180 --> 00:48:12,280 Earth map of the area there is a lake 1113 00:48:18,810 --> 00:48:15,190 right there and one could surmise that 1114 00:48:21,870 --> 00:48:18,820 let's say there was a UFO let's say they 1115 00:48:25,070 --> 00:48:21,880 wanted to hide the lake would probably 1116 00:48:28,050 --> 00:48:25,080 be a good choice for doing that 1117 00:48:30,500 --> 00:48:28,060 evidently those choppers were looking 1118 00:48:34,380 --> 00:48:30,510 for something what it was I'm not sure 1119 00:48:37,980 --> 00:48:34,390 but then the day after they leave well 1120 00:48:42,090 --> 00:48:37,990 actually that night that they left here 1121 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:42,100 comes this here this UFO appears it was 1122 00:48:47,130 --> 00:48:44,410 anybody to identify where the where the 1123 00:48:49,710 --> 00:48:47,140 choppers were were coming from in other 1124 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:49,720 words were based we called Whiteman I 1125 00:48:54,030 --> 00:48:50,770 mean that would have been the first 1126 00:48:57,030 --> 00:48:54,040 choice and they said no we called Fort 1127 00:48:59,880 --> 00:48:57,040 Riley in Kansas and they said no we 1128 00:49:03,570 --> 00:48:59,890 called a Strategic Air Command in Omaha 1129 00:49:05,070 --> 00:49:03,580 and they said no so and whatever you 1130 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:05,080 know if it was some top-secret mission 1131 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:07,690 they wouldn't tell us anyway I have no 1132 00:49:13,230 --> 00:49:11,770 idea it's just very odd how high in the 1133 00:49:16,620 --> 00:49:13,240 sky was it 1134 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:16,630 well mile wide and they said just above 1135 00:49:22,620 --> 00:49:20,050 tree level okay so it was fine very low 1136 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:22,630 very close overhead so you could hardly 1137 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:25,330 see the end of it could you yeah and 1138 00:49:29,940 --> 00:49:27,850 very very slowly as well that you know 1139 00:49:32,070 --> 00:49:29,950 the the group of people I spoke with 1140 00:49:33,420 --> 00:49:32,080 said they were just amazed that they 1141 00:49:35,610 --> 00:49:33,430 were standing there watching this thing 1142 00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:35,620 and and if it and if it was aware that 1143 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:36,880 they were watching it it didn't seem to 1144 00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:40,090 care about that okay now how long was it 1145 00:49:43,980 --> 00:49:42,310 in the sky what kind of new residue see 1146 00:49:48,090 --> 00:49:43,990 can you give us some more details 1147 00:49:50,310 --> 00:49:48,100 it just went in a straight line path it 1148 00:49:52,350 --> 00:49:50,320 was fine very slow was 4:00 a.m. in the 1149 00:49:54,630 --> 00:49:52,360 morning they watch it for about 10 1150 00:49:57,089 --> 00:49:54,640 minutes as it just slowly 1151 00:49:58,980 --> 00:49:57,099 went out of sight it didn't disappear or 1152 00:50:03,809 --> 00:49:58,990 shoot off it just went in a straight 1153 00:50:04,620 --> 00:50:03,819 direction and about how fast well I I 1154 00:50:07,859 --> 00:50:04,630 don't know 1155 00:50:12,210 --> 00:50:07,869 you know when it's very slow is you know 1156 00:50:15,180 --> 00:50:12,220 they said it was dead slow so I don't 1157 00:50:16,410 --> 00:50:15,190 know of any standard craft that could do 1158 00:50:20,579 --> 00:50:16,420 that sort of thing other than a 1159 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:20,589 helicopter also a mile wide yeah wide 1160 00:50:25,019 --> 00:50:22,450 craft this is almost like Independence 1161 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:25,029 Day the movie where you had these chips 1162 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:27,130 well except in that case I think there 1163 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:28,930 were 15 miles wide in that movie but a 1164 00:50:35,549 --> 00:50:31,930 mile is an amazing distance you have to 1165 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:35,559 think how many craft we have that's 1166 00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:37,930 multi thousands of feet long you know I 1167 00:50:48,750 --> 00:50:42,910 can aircraft carrier is how big I think 1168 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:48,760 ball fields long at least okay and this 1169 00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:52,450 you know also it's headed east which is 1170 00:50:57,539 --> 00:50:54,250 the direction I'd come from from st. 1171 00:50:59,249 --> 00:50:57,549 Louis so here we've got another factor 1172 00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:59,259 involved maybe it was going backward 1173 00:51:03,509 --> 00:51:00,720 where it came from 1174 00:51:05,269 --> 00:51:03,519 well the size would seem to mitigate the 1175 00:51:08,249 --> 00:51:05,279 possibility was anything conventional 1176 00:51:11,519 --> 00:51:08,259 unless we have a flying aircraft carrier 1177 00:51:12,690 --> 00:51:11,529 that's being tested by our military this 1178 00:51:14,430 --> 00:51:12,700 is really getting more and more 1179 00:51:16,019 --> 00:51:14,440 fascinating by the moment Margie K 1180 00:51:18,180 --> 00:51:16,029 assistant State Director of Missouri 1181 00:51:20,490 --> 00:51:18,190 MUFON here we could be talking about 1182 00:51:22,970 --> 00:51:20,500 lots of different events but right now 1183 00:51:25,950 --> 00:51:22,980 focusing on a number of very compelling 1184 00:51:27,420 --> 00:51:25,960 sightings in the Kansas City area and 1185 00:51:29,990 --> 00:51:27,430 there abouts with Gene and Kris you're 1186 00:51:37,510 --> 00:51:30,000 in 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the para cast the gold 1242 00:54:11,499 --> 00:54:04,279 standard of paranormal radio and now 1243 00:54:14,089 --> 00:54:11,509 here's Jane Steinberg you know when 1244 00:54:16,579 --> 00:54:14,099 Margie first agreed to come on the show 1245 00:54:19,099 --> 00:54:16,589 I think she was concerned about doing 1246 00:54:20,210 --> 00:54:19,109 this amount of time with interviews but 1247 00:54:22,339 --> 00:54:20,220 you can see of course there's so many 1248 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:22,349 details that we're trying to understand 1249 00:54:27,079 --> 00:54:23,970 with this case do you think this is the 1250 00:54:30,220 --> 00:54:27,089 largest unknown or craft that you've 1251 00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:30,230 ever seen or heard about it is certainly 1252 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:34,250 no no bigger than others 1253 00:54:42,740 --> 00:54:37,130 I've got other reports of mile-wide 1254 00:54:47,059 --> 00:54:42,750 craft since then so you know that's 1255 00:54:49,249 --> 00:54:47,069 probably the biggest okay so this was in 1256 00:54:53,990 --> 00:54:49,259 the vicinity of this location or 1257 00:54:55,759 --> 00:54:54,000 elsewhere the other two sightings that I 1258 00:54:58,970 --> 00:54:55,769 can think of off the top of my head are 1259 00:55:01,970 --> 00:54:58,980 South Kansas City Missouri some miles 1260 00:55:03,559 --> 00:55:01,980 from that location on a complete 1261 00:55:07,279 --> 00:55:03,569 different date and I believe it was 1262 00:55:10,999 --> 00:55:07,289 August a gentleman and his wife and his 1263 00:55:13,609 --> 00:55:11,009 neighbors said a silver metallic disc 1264 00:55:17,289 --> 00:55:13,619 shape that looked you know very very 1265 00:55:21,529 --> 00:55:17,299 wide they were guessing a mile appeared 1266 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:21,539 above them he said not more than 300 1267 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:25,410 feet above him it was a guess that his 1268 00:55:33,289 --> 00:55:29,490 job had something to do with a be onyx 1269 00:55:37,370 --> 00:55:33,299 so I think that it he you know may have 1270 00:55:39,620 --> 00:55:37,380 been pretty accurate and so we have at 1271 00:55:43,220 --> 00:55:39,630 least three adult witnesses that saw 1272 00:55:45,319 --> 00:55:43,230 that as it traveled north and in a 1273 00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:45,329 straight line path and then another 1274 00:55:51,140 --> 00:55:48,569 witness reported a large object right 1275 00:55:55,519 --> 00:55:51,150 over downtown Kansas City four hours 1276 00:55:59,660 --> 00:55:55,529 later and that object blanked out the 1277 00:56:01,940 --> 00:55:59,670 sky she said it was just above the tall 1278 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:01,950 buildings downtown and she was actually 1279 00:56:06,890 --> 00:56:04,170 walking down the street going to lunch 1280 00:56:08,690 --> 00:56:06,900 with some friends she saw the object and 1281 00:56:09,329 --> 00:56:08,700 she stopped and looked at it and the 1282 00:56:12,989 --> 00:56:09,339 other two 1283 00:56:17,339 --> 00:56:12,999 not see it so oh that would wait a 1284 00:56:19,259 --> 00:56:17,349 minute okay so they said I've had 1285 00:56:21,870 --> 00:56:19,269 reports like that a number of people 1286 00:56:25,140 --> 00:56:21,880 could see it and others couldn't it's 1287 00:56:27,569 --> 00:56:25,150 not that unusual no it's it's it's 1288 00:56:29,969 --> 00:56:27,579 actually pretty common for people to be 1289 00:56:33,900 --> 00:56:29,979 watching something that is so strange 1290 00:56:36,269 --> 00:56:33,910 that their mind Ino and they wait I 1291 00:56:38,249 --> 00:56:36,279 believe this is what happens that their 1292 00:56:40,289 --> 00:56:38,259 mind just blanks that out and they it 1293 00:56:42,059 --> 00:56:40,299 doesn't exist for them they can't see it 1294 00:56:46,140 --> 00:56:42,069 I mean look at what happened when 1295 00:56:47,700 --> 00:56:46,150 Columbus landed most of the natives that 1296 00:56:50,309 --> 00:56:47,710 were there at the time could not see 1297 00:56:52,589 --> 00:56:50,319 their ships well yeah that was Cortes 1298 00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:52,599 actually done an offer of course okay so 1299 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:54,880 it took him some time to be able to see 1300 00:56:59,549 --> 00:56:56,650 the ships yeah a couple days actually 1301 00:57:01,349 --> 00:56:59,559 and they were right there yeah I'd the 1302 00:57:02,430 --> 00:57:01,359 sailors there they were they couldn't 1303 00:57:04,979 --> 00:57:02,440 believe it they're looking at these 1304 00:57:06,509 --> 00:57:04,989 names just walking along and and nobody 1305 00:57:08,549 --> 00:57:06,519 seemed to recognize that there was 1306 00:57:10,609 --> 00:57:08,559 there's these three giant you know if 1307 00:57:13,319 --> 00:57:10,619 for the time very large ships out there 1308 00:57:15,180 --> 00:57:13,329 and they could see the water rippling 1309 00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:15,190 they could see the effects they knew 1310 00:57:19,349 --> 00:57:17,440 something was there that it took them 1311 00:57:21,719 --> 00:57:19,359 quite some time to be able to actually 1312 00:57:23,459 --> 00:57:21,729 see those ships so I think the same sort 1313 00:57:25,380 --> 00:57:23,469 of thing happens with UFO sightings I 1314 00:57:28,259 --> 00:57:25,390 mean I I've actually been involved where 1315 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:28,269 I've been with friends and two of us saw 1316 00:57:32,190 --> 00:57:30,130 something and the other two are looking 1317 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:32,200 at the same thing and say they didn't 1318 00:57:36,839 --> 00:57:32,650 see a thing 1319 00:57:39,799 --> 00:57:36,849 well one of the aspects I guess here in 1320 00:57:43,469 --> 00:57:39,809 UFO research is to see how the mind 1321 00:57:45,749 --> 00:57:43,479 interacts and alters the perception of 1322 00:57:47,759 --> 00:57:45,759 what you're really seeing so if we have 1323 00:57:50,849 --> 00:57:47,769 a situation where someone doesn't see it 1324 00:57:53,579 --> 00:57:50,859 at all in that case the mind and the 1325 00:57:56,849 --> 00:57:53,589 eyes on them but what about the people 1326 00:57:59,370 --> 00:57:56,859 who do see something in what way is 1327 00:58:00,959 --> 00:57:59,380 their mind or subconscious playing 1328 00:58:03,089 --> 00:58:00,969 tricks in that way so we're seeing the 1329 00:58:05,759 --> 00:58:03,099 negative not seeing is the positive 1330 00:58:08,099 --> 00:58:05,769 reflective of the same thing that we're 1331 00:58:10,319 --> 00:58:08,109 seeing something because something 1332 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:10,329 someone or ourselves were playing tricks 1333 00:58:17,130 --> 00:58:13,450 on ourselves yeah we have to be very 1334 00:58:19,559 --> 00:58:17,140 careful because this gets more and more 1335 00:58:21,089 --> 00:58:19,569 complicated like I said as you know as 1336 00:58:23,099 --> 00:58:21,099 you start researching this there's no 1337 00:58:25,319 --> 00:58:23,109 end there's always more questions 1338 00:58:28,849 --> 00:58:25,329 answers it's always part of the 1339 00:58:30,950 --> 00:58:28,859 craziness of UFOs that even if it is et 1340 00:58:35,039 --> 00:58:30,960 it's not that simple 1341 00:58:37,019 --> 00:58:35,049 exactly right now amongst the sightings 1342 00:58:39,089 --> 00:58:37,029 you had in Kansas City any of the 1343 00:58:41,970 --> 00:58:39,099 old-fashioned UFO sightings rapidly 1344 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:41,980 moving rapid turns that kind of thing 1345 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:43,690 cat-and-mouse games with aircraft 1346 00:58:51,239 --> 00:58:46,210 anything like that oh sure 1347 00:58:54,390 --> 00:58:51,249 yes absolutely I can think of several 1348 00:58:58,440 --> 00:58:54,400 cases in October especially where we had 1349 00:59:01,079 --> 00:58:58,450 that the we have many witnesses that 1350 00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:01,089 reported craft on the same days and 1351 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:04,720 let's just go to October 31st as an 1352 00:59:09,299 --> 00:59:07,210 extremely strange day okay this is last 1353 00:59:12,599 --> 00:59:09,309 year we're talking about a year right 1354 00:59:16,349 --> 00:59:12,609 last year multiple witnesses seem 1355 00:59:19,019 --> 00:59:16,359 strange objects in the sky and many 1356 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:19,029 close encounters so this is this is 1357 00:59:25,259 --> 00:59:23,170 another very unusual day I had several 1358 00:59:27,509 --> 00:59:25,269 reports where people saw something that 1359 00:59:31,380 --> 00:59:27,519 was a hundred to two hundred feet from 1360 00:59:34,289 --> 00:59:31,390 them that was a very large craft with 1361 00:59:38,609 --> 00:59:34,299 lights in one case it was Halloween 1362 00:59:41,849 --> 00:59:38,619 night and this family had had seen a UFO 1363 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:41,859 and it was close enough for them to know 1364 00:59:45,989 --> 00:59:44,170 that it was a craft and it actually 1365 00:59:48,029 --> 00:59:45,999 seemed to follow them as they drove 1366 00:59:51,539 --> 00:59:48,039 along the highway but then when they 1367 00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:51,549 turned they lost sight of it and when 1368 00:59:55,039 --> 00:59:53,680 they got to the neighborhood where they 1369 00:59:57,450 --> 00:59:55,049 were taking the kids trick-or-treating 1370 00:59:59,130 --> 00:59:57,460 all of these people in the neighborhood 1371 01:00:00,539 --> 00:59:59,140 said did you see this did you see this 1372 01:00:03,749 --> 01:00:00,549 and she said there were about 30 people 1373 01:00:07,049 --> 01:00:03,759 there all talking about seeing that UFO 1374 01:00:09,569 --> 01:00:07,059 when suddenly the thing rises up from 1375 01:00:11,609 --> 01:00:09,579 behind some buildings and comes right 1376 01:00:15,019 --> 01:00:11,619 over the street where all of these 1377 01:00:17,249 --> 01:00:15,029 people are standing and this woman who 1378 01:00:20,309 --> 01:00:17,259 originally was in the car and had the 1379 01:00:21,749 --> 01:00:20,319 the UFO follow beside her noticed that 1380 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:21,759 everybody seemed to be totally 1381 01:00:27,450 --> 01:00:24,130 mesmerised and they were suddenly very 1382 01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:27,460 quiet didn't say a word nobody ran 1383 01:00:32,099 --> 01:00:29,410 screaming away with this thing right 1384 01:00:34,819 --> 01:00:32,109 over their heads and she said it was 1385 01:00:36,990 --> 01:00:34,829 like it kind of hypnotized everybody and 1386 01:00:40,590 --> 01:00:37,000 she seemed to be the 1387 01:00:46,980 --> 01:00:40,600 only one who was you know fully 1388 01:00:49,620 --> 01:00:46,990 conscious and so she called me and she 1389 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:49,630 told me this entire story and then she 1390 01:00:53,700 --> 01:00:51,010 says I'm going to get these other people 1391 01:00:54,900 --> 01:00:53,710 to you know to be witnesses on the case 1392 01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:54,910 I said that'd be great 1393 01:01:02,220 --> 01:00:57,490 well the next thing I know none of them 1394 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:02,230 will talk to me about anything only 1395 01:01:07,110 --> 01:01:04,210 she's the only one who would talk to me 1396 01:01:09,030 --> 01:01:07,120 and some of them then claimed to not not 1397 01:01:10,410 --> 01:01:09,040 to have seen anything but she watched 1398 01:01:12,660 --> 01:01:10,420 them as they're standing there 1399 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:12,670 mesmerized by this thing I hate when 1400 01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:13,450 that happens 1401 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:16,480 oh man yeah and then she said this thing 1402 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:19,450 just started rising up for maybe a 1403 01:01:24,540 --> 01:01:21,970 hundred feet and then shot off super 1404 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:24,550 fast and was completely gone in another 1405 01:01:29,340 --> 01:01:26,890 case a woman was coming out of a grocery 1406 01:01:31,290 --> 01:01:29,350 store in Raytown and by the way these 1407 01:01:34,830 --> 01:01:31,300 did seem to be concentrated in the rate 1408 01:01:37,670 --> 01:01:34,840 only summit Kansas City area and she 1409 01:01:41,700 --> 01:01:37,680 came out of the the grocery store and 1410 01:01:43,470 --> 01:01:41,710 just felt a presence and so she turned 1411 01:01:46,980 --> 01:01:43,480 around as she got to her car in the 1412 01:01:50,070 --> 01:01:46,990 parking lot and here is a very large UFO 1413 01:01:53,190 --> 01:01:50,080 hovering right over the top of this 1414 01:01:55,470 --> 01:01:53,200 grocery store and she described the 1415 01:01:59,640 --> 01:01:55,480 lights on it it was a disc-shaped it was 1416 01:02:02,850 --> 01:01:59,650 silver and she stood there for quite 1417 01:02:05,610 --> 01:02:02,860 some time and it just stayed very still 1418 01:02:07,380 --> 01:02:05,620 she finally got a little bit afraid and 1419 01:02:10,770 --> 01:02:07,390 got in her car and she sat there and 1420 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:10,780 watched for another ten minutes and then 1421 01:02:16,260 --> 01:02:13,930 it it's the same thing pulled back a 1422 01:02:18,300 --> 01:02:16,270 little bit went up a couple hundred feet 1423 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:18,310 and then shot off and a hybrid of speed 1424 01:02:23,070 --> 01:02:19,090 and was gone 1425 01:02:26,550 --> 01:02:23,080 well then we come to the most bizarre 1426 01:02:28,860 --> 01:02:26,560 case I think I've ever done and this is 1427 01:02:33,390 --> 01:02:28,870 not far away from Ray town on 63rd 1428 01:02:36,090 --> 01:02:33,400 Street two gentlemen were one gentleman 1429 01:02:38,460 --> 01:02:36,100 was in the driveway or parking lot of 1430 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:38,470 this apartment complex the other one was 1431 01:02:44,670 --> 01:02:41,530 inside and he came out on to the 1432 01:02:47,250 --> 01:02:44,680 third-floor balcony to say hello to his 1433 01:02:49,590 --> 01:02:47,260 friend who was planning on coming up to 1434 01:02:50,970 --> 01:02:49,600 visit him when they both noticed that 1435 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:50,980 there was an object coming from 1436 01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:53,530 around the building at a little bit of a 1437 01:02:59,400 --> 01:02:55,090 distance but they could tell that it was 1438 01:03:03,210 --> 01:02:59,410 a craft of some type and it moved around 1439 01:03:06,270 --> 01:03:03,220 in a circular pattern and then headed 1440 01:03:09,420 --> 01:03:06,280 right towards them then it approached 1441 01:03:12,410 --> 01:03:09,430 and it got very very low so it's at the 1442 01:03:15,210 --> 01:03:12,420 same level as the third-floor apartment 1443 01:03:18,390 --> 01:03:15,220 that's low to the ground so we're 1444 01:03:19,020 --> 01:03:18,400 talking about what 30 40 feet 40 50 feet 1445 01:03:25,460 --> 01:03:19,030 okay 1446 01:03:29,190 --> 01:03:25,470 towards it he said he felt like this 1447 01:03:32,340 --> 01:03:29,200 uncontrollable urge this pull towards 1448 01:03:34,349 --> 01:03:32,350 this object even though he was scared he 1449 01:03:36,180 --> 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--> 01:08:29,679 tell us more shades and Travis Walton oh 1560 01:08:36,090 --> 01:08:33,409 yes and he so he did walk towards it and 1561 01:08:38,649 --> 01:08:36,100 he actually got up on top of this green 1562 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:38,659 electrical box outside the apartment 1563 01:08:43,749 --> 01:08:41,210 building to get even closer to it and 1564 01:08:48,669 --> 01:08:43,759 he's filming this the whole time with 1565 01:08:52,149 --> 01:08:48,679 his cell phone then he hears this really 1566 01:08:55,209 --> 01:08:52,159 low wah-wah-wah sound but more you know 1567 01:08:59,110 --> 01:08:55,219 metallic sounding and electronic 1568 01:09:01,209 --> 01:08:59,120 sounding and and then this dislike 1569 01:09:03,610 --> 01:09:01,219 banging he and he and his friend also 1570 01:09:05,499 --> 01:09:03,620 heard this bang bang bang in the 1571 01:09:08,769 --> 01:09:05,509 meantime the friend's wife came out 1572 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:08,779 brought to him his camera so he's taking 1573 01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:11,449 pictures and there were some children in 1574 01:09:15,010 --> 01:09:13,370 the area who had been playing and 1575 01:09:18,220 --> 01:09:15,020 screaming and pointing and looking at 1576 01:09:20,769 --> 01:09:18,230 the sky but by that time they all run 1577 01:09:21,849 --> 01:09:20,779 inside their house so we have the three 1578 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:21,859 of these people that are outside 1579 01:09:29,620 --> 01:09:25,730 watching this and then the thing turns 1580 01:09:32,649 --> 01:09:29,630 up on its end and then it's only like 1581 01:09:34,959 --> 01:09:32,659 eight feet above the ground at that 1582 01:09:38,229 --> 01:09:34,969 point and it's it's so the bottom of the 1583 01:09:41,050 --> 01:09:38,239 craft is facing towards these men and 1584 01:09:43,749 --> 01:09:41,060 the bottom is all lit up super bright 1585 01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:43,759 lights and a green mist of some type 1586 01:09:51,329 --> 01:09:47,449 comes out of this and goes on to the man 1587 01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:51,339 that's on standing on this green box and 1588 01:09:59,919 --> 01:09:56,810 what he remembers is just watching the 1589 01:10:02,770 --> 01:09:59,929 craft during that time but his friend 1590 01:10:04,090 --> 01:10:02,780 said he was screaming at him to get away 1591 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:04,100 from it to get away from 1592 01:10:08,980 --> 01:10:06,290 and to wake up because it appears like 1593 01:10:11,350 --> 01:10:08,990 like he was in a trance so he was put 1594 01:10:15,490 --> 01:10:11,360 into some type of a trance state where 1595 01:10:19,480 --> 01:10:15,500 he doesn't remember 20 minutes well then 1596 01:10:22,090 --> 01:10:19,490 I go to look at the photographs in the 1597 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:22,100 video and here's where it gets very 1598 01:10:27,580 --> 01:10:25,010 strange there's a time stamp on all of 1599 01:10:32,170 --> 01:10:27,590 the new digital cameras right the time 1600 01:10:34,630 --> 01:10:32,180 stamp on the pictures says a date and 1601 01:10:38,050 --> 01:10:34,640 then it skips a date in time and then it 1602 01:10:41,110 --> 01:10:38,060 skips to 20 minutes later be in between 1603 01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:41,120 the next picture yet both men were 1604 01:10:46,540 --> 01:10:43,730 continually taking still put photos and 1605 01:10:49,810 --> 01:10:46,550 video during that time so there's 20 1606 01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:49,820 minutes of missing photographs on each 1607 01:10:56,710 --> 01:10:52,250 of these cameras the next strange thing 1608 01:10:58,510 --> 01:10:56,720 that happened is I was watching some of 1609 01:11:00,820 --> 01:10:58,520 the stills that were taken by the 1610 01:11:02,830 --> 01:11:00,830 gentleman in the apartment actually on 1611 01:11:05,590 --> 01:11:02,840 his television screen he hooked it up 1612 01:11:08,830 --> 01:11:05,600 you've got to see these so I'm looking 1613 01:11:11,290 --> 01:11:08,840 at these and I just kind of 1614 01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:11,300 instinctively said you know what I need 1615 01:11:17,140 --> 01:11:13,130 to take some pictures off of your screen 1616 01:11:20,050 --> 01:11:17,150 and so with my own camera I took some 1617 01:11:23,140 --> 01:11:20,060 screenshots well it's a good thing I did 1618 01:11:25,660 --> 01:11:23,150 because between the time that he handed 1619 01:11:28,930 --> 01:11:25,670 that disc to me so that I could take it 1620 01:11:29,890 --> 01:11:28,940 back to my office and get the pictures 1621 01:11:31,990 --> 01:11:29,900 off of it 1622 01:11:33,970 --> 01:11:32,000 when I got back to my office and put it 1623 01:11:36,490 --> 01:11:33,980 in my computer there were no pictures on 1624 01:11:43,450 --> 01:11:36,500 there man I hate when that happens 1625 01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:43,460 yeah happens I mean in 20 minute time 1626 01:11:48,580 --> 01:11:44,050 span 1627 01:11:51,130 --> 01:11:48,590 how did anyone managed to erase those 1628 01:11:53,950 --> 01:11:51,140 pictures it's just bizarre it's one of 1629 01:11:56,740 --> 01:11:53,960 the most and it's ongoing the next 1630 01:11:58,540 --> 01:11:56,750 morning one of the men found himself at 1631 01:12:01,090 --> 01:11:58,550 the call river and doesn't know how he 1632 01:12:03,310 --> 01:12:01,100 got there woke up in his car the the 1633 01:12:06,910 --> 01:12:03,320 object oh let me tell you how it went 1634 01:12:11,140 --> 01:12:06,920 away it then rose up in the sky turned 1635 01:12:15,070 --> 01:12:11,150 back to the normal position so it was 1636 01:12:17,470 --> 01:12:15,080 bottom down and then went north on i-35 1637 01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:17,480 and then shot 1638 01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:19,850 very very quickly out of sight in an 1639 01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:22,850 instant and then I've got other reports 1640 01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:26,930 as we go north on 435 in the Liberty 1641 01:12:34,870 --> 01:12:30,490 area in Platte County and Clay County of 1642 01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:34,880 a UFO in that area so you know was we've 1643 01:12:39,460 --> 01:12:37,370 got some more witnesses to that very 1644 01:12:43,630 --> 01:12:39,470 bizarre so what does the photographic 1645 01:12:46,300 --> 01:12:43,640 evidence show oh there's a craft you can 1646 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:46,310 see a craft and you can see when it 1647 01:12:51,310 --> 01:12:48,650 turned up on it's it's and this guy is 1648 01:12:53,380 --> 01:12:51,320 taking pictures looking down at it I 1649 01:12:55,450 --> 01:12:53,390 mean it is so close to them 1650 01:12:57,790 --> 01:12:55,460 it's incredible these these pictures are 1651 01:13:00,820 --> 01:12:57,800 just absolutely amazing 1652 01:13:02,290 --> 01:13:00,830 well we'd loved at some point to be able 1653 01:13:03,820 --> 01:13:02,300 to take a look at that I'm sure our 1654 01:13:05,470 --> 01:13:03,830 listeners will be really fascinated to 1655 01:13:07,930 --> 01:13:05,480 take a look at those yeah we're working 1656 01:13:10,180 --> 01:13:07,940 on how that's going to happen but yeah I 1657 01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:10,190 will let you know well certainly we 1658 01:13:15,850 --> 01:13:13,130 happy as they open up thread for this in 1659 01:13:17,260 --> 01:13:15,860 our forums to discuss the show we'll add 1660 01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:17,270 any material that you want to include 1661 01:13:21,940 --> 01:13:19,370 links direct to your site or elsewhere 1662 01:13:24,940 --> 01:13:21,950 because this is fascinating but isn't it 1663 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:24,950 strange here how often we have attempts 1664 01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:27,290 to make pictures of UFOs and things just 1665 01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:28,970 never seemed to work out the way they 1666 01:13:32,050 --> 01:13:29,210 should 1667 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:32,060 the ultimate cat-and-mouse game is to 1668 01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:35,930 keep from being photographed yeah you 1669 01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:37,370 know that part is certainly 1670 01:13:41,650 --> 01:13:39,770 unexplainable it just makes you wonder 1671 01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:41,660 about who has that kind of technology 1672 01:13:46,390 --> 01:13:43,970 who has the ability and why do they want 1673 01:13:49,480 --> 01:13:46,400 to do it well remember of course they're 1674 01:13:52,300 --> 01:13:49,490 using standard recording techniques on a 1675 01:13:55,030 --> 01:13:52,310 memory card so I guess you could send 1676 01:13:57,250 --> 01:13:55,040 out some kind of radio wave or something 1677 01:14:00,910 --> 01:13:57,260 that erases what's on a memory card now 1678 01:14:02,140 --> 01:14:00,920 or maybe electromagnetic yes now amongst 1679 01:14:05,190 --> 01:14:02,150 the sightings that we're talking about 1680 01:14:07,450 --> 01:14:05,200 here do we have any of the traditional 1681 01:14:11,250 --> 01:14:07,460 electromagnetic effects like cars 1682 01:14:14,410 --> 01:14:11,260 stopping that kind of thing yes radios 1683 01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:14,420 showing interference cell phone's not 1684 01:14:21,820 --> 01:14:17,330 working in some of the other cases I've 1685 01:14:24,430 --> 01:14:21,830 worked on one of the women had white the 1686 01:14:29,230 --> 01:14:24,440 Christmas lights are in her living room 1687 01:14:31,359 --> 01:14:29,240 set up and she watched a an orange my 1688 01:14:33,759 --> 01:14:31,369 very large orange ball of light 1689 01:14:36,189 --> 01:14:33,769 over the apartment building next to her 1690 01:14:39,099 --> 01:14:36,199 so she's looking down at it and the next 1691 01:14:42,629 --> 01:14:39,109 morning she saw that every single one of 1692 01:14:45,429 --> 01:14:42,639 her Christmas lights was blown out and 1693 01:14:48,299 --> 01:14:45,439 that's I don't know why she had him up 1694 01:14:50,829 --> 01:14:48,309 but she left him up all year round and 1695 01:14:54,099 --> 01:14:50,839 so I said well you know is there 1696 01:14:55,389 --> 01:14:54,109 anything wrong was the cords have you 1697 01:14:57,399 --> 01:14:55,399 had any trouble with that before she 1698 01:14:59,469 --> 01:14:57,409 said no I had no idea why something like 1699 01:15:03,790 --> 01:14:59,479 that would happen and there was no storm 1700 01:15:05,709 --> 01:15:03,800 over the evening but then she also had 1701 01:15:08,589 --> 01:15:05,719 this really bad static over her phone 1702 01:15:12,489 --> 01:15:08,599 line and had to actually replace her 1703 01:15:16,750 --> 01:15:12,499 phone so Henson strange things I people 1704 01:15:18,579 --> 01:15:16,760 had cell phone interference aisle number 1705 01:15:20,259 --> 01:15:18,589 of people had batteries drain on their 1706 01:15:22,599 --> 01:15:20,269 cameras while the other that's pretty 1707 01:15:26,079 --> 01:15:22,609 common I've had that happen so many 1708 01:15:29,409 --> 01:15:26,089 times up yeah yeah that one couple was 1709 01:15:32,879 --> 01:15:29,419 actually driving on 435 highway at that 1710 01:15:36,339 --> 01:15:32,889 10:30 at 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Chris we're talking about the 2011 1835 01:21:14,290 --> 01:21:12,800 to 2012 Kansas City related UFO flap how 1836 01:21:15,610 --> 01:21:14,300 recent are these sightings are they 1837 01:21:19,330 --> 01:21:15,620 still happening to this very day 1838 01:21:22,930 --> 01:21:19,340 marching well as of the last four weeks 1839 01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:22,940 we have slowed down to a crawl again so 1840 01:21:30,010 --> 01:21:26,210 we had we had kind of a lull after 1841 01:21:33,940 --> 01:21:30,020 October we did at quite a few November 1842 01:21:35,770 --> 01:21:33,950 December January but then it went down 1843 01:21:39,730 --> 01:21:35,780 to almost nothing but then again in 1844 01:21:40,540 --> 01:21:39,740 April it started again only this time it 1845 01:21:43,420 --> 01:21:40,550 was different 1846 01:21:47,380 --> 01:21:43,430 this time the sightings are of 1847 01:21:49,810 --> 01:21:47,390 completely different objects and so many 1848 01:21:51,700 --> 01:21:49,820 of them that I have to believe it's the 1849 01:21:53,310 --> 01:21:51,710 same object or there are multiple 1850 01:21:58,510 --> 01:21:53,320 objects that are the same type of 1851 01:22:01,300 --> 01:21:58,520 vehicle what it is is this the first 1852 01:22:04,270 --> 01:22:01,310 time I heard of this actually was from a 1853 01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:04,280 TV reporter he called me and said have 1854 01:22:10,660 --> 01:22:06,650 you heard about these sightings in Blue 1855 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:10,670 Springs so I said no what are you 1856 01:22:14,260 --> 01:22:12,530 talking about he says well he says I was 1857 01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:14,270 out there last night and I saw something 1858 01:22:18,670 --> 01:22:16,610 I can't explain and I'm going back out 1859 01:22:21,730 --> 01:22:18,680 there tonight so I said okay I'm on it 1860 01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:21,740 I'm going out there so I contacted the 1861 01:22:27,610 --> 01:22:24,050 witness who made the first report and 1862 01:22:30,370 --> 01:22:27,620 who reported it to the TV station and I 1863 01:22:32,860 --> 01:22:30,380 went out to this area that is just right 1864 01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:32,870 by Independence it's very North Blue 1865 01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:35,810 Springs the whole neighborhood was out 1866 01:22:41,050 --> 01:22:38,810 they were probably at least 20 people 1867 01:22:43,210 --> 01:22:41,060 out in the streets and they all had 1868 01:22:45,540 --> 01:22:43,220 their telescopes and binoculars and had 1869 01:22:48,580 --> 01:22:45,550 been telling me that the night before 1870 01:22:50,260 --> 01:22:48,590 they had the television reporter there 1871 01:22:52,390 --> 01:22:50,270 but that this had actually started a 1872 01:22:54,820 --> 01:22:52,400 couple of weeks prior they hadn't told 1873 01:22:55,390 --> 01:22:54,830 anybody yet I said okay well what are 1874 01:22:57,910 --> 01:22:55,400 you seeing 1875 01:23:00,700 --> 01:22:57,920 I said well right at dusk you see this 1876 01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:00,710 super bright object appear in the sky 1877 01:23:06,700 --> 01:23:03,410 and it looks like a start for 1878 01:23:07,870 --> 01:23:06,710 but as you watch it it gets brighter and 1879 01:23:10,900 --> 01:23:07,880 brighter and brighter throughout the 1880 01:23:12,820 --> 01:23:10,910 night and it flashes these multiple 1881 01:23:17,250 --> 01:23:12,830 colors and different colors could be 1882 01:23:20,050 --> 01:23:17,260 green blue red and white said okay well 1883 01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:20,060 that was at the end of it the news 1884 01:23:26,140 --> 01:23:22,370 reporter told me that he and his camera 1885 01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:26,150 woman were watching this object when all 1886 01:23:31,780 --> 01:23:28,850 of a sudden after about an hour and a 1887 01:23:34,420 --> 01:23:31,790 half of watching it it took off across 1888 01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:34,430 the sky at a high rate of speed what 1889 01:23:39,820 --> 01:23:37,250 across the horizon and went back to its 1890 01:23:43,270 --> 01:23:39,830 original location and stopped and he 1891 01:23:45,790 --> 01:23:43,280 says that is not a star no you're right 1892 01:23:47,020 --> 01:23:45,800 that it's not a star what direction now 1893 01:23:50,050 --> 01:23:47,030 give us a good give us a sense of 1894 01:23:54,190 --> 01:23:50,060 direction here what it was it rising in 1895 01:23:55,570 --> 01:23:54,200 the East or which direction were they 1896 01:23:57,910 --> 01:23:55,580 looking and when they originally saw the 1897 01:24:00,910 --> 01:23:57,920 Sun they were looking Northwest okay so 1898 01:24:05,290 --> 01:24:00,920 that would preclude any sort of star 1899 01:24:07,900 --> 01:24:05,300 rising I got my Google Sky Map out and I 1900 01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:07,910 looked at it nicely oh well maybe that's 1901 01:24:16,170 --> 01:24:11,090 Arcturus maybe and then another one 1902 01:24:19,020 --> 01:24:16,180 appeared and that was in the southwest 1903 01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:19,030 and so I thought well maybe that's Venus 1904 01:24:24,580 --> 01:24:22,250 forget my Google Sky Map out the Venus 1905 01:24:26,620 --> 01:24:24,590 is below the horizon and it doesn't look 1906 01:24:29,620 --> 01:24:26,630 like the right exact spot for Arcturus 1907 01:24:31,810 --> 01:24:29,630 so I called my state director Debbie 1908 01:24:34,810 --> 01:24:31,820 sigil Meyer in st. Louis by that time is 1909 01:24:38,170 --> 01:24:34,820 10:30 p.m. and the camera crew is still 1910 01:24:41,740 --> 01:24:38,180 there and I have I have told them that 1911 01:24:43,390 --> 01:24:41,750 they really look you know I was 99% 1912 01:24:45,580 --> 01:24:43,400 certain that they were stars or planets 1913 01:24:47,650 --> 01:24:45,590 at the point that I was watching them 1914 01:24:49,660 --> 01:24:47,660 because that evening I'd been out there 1915 01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:49,670 for about an hour and a half and and 1916 01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:52,610 they didn't do anything spectacular well 1917 01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:54,650 Debbie looked in the sky in the 1918 01:25:00,160 --> 01:24:57,650 direction I told her and the degrees off 1919 01:25:02,170 --> 01:25:00,170 the horizon I told her she says no it's 1920 01:25:04,270 --> 01:25:02,180 just normal it's not doing anything I 1921 01:25:07,210 --> 01:25:04,280 said well it looks to me like it's 1922 01:25:09,790 --> 01:25:07,220 starting to flash this red and green and 1923 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:09,800 red and green so I got my high-powered 1924 01:25:15,790 --> 01:25:12,410 binoculars out which are much easier to 1925 01:25:17,290 --> 01:25:15,800 see objects with closed objects within 1926 01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:17,300 it than a telescope 1927 01:25:23,500 --> 01:25:19,130 and it's hard difficult to find with the 1928 01:25:25,690 --> 01:25:23,510 telescope so I see this white flash 1929 01:25:27,790 --> 01:25:25,700 coming from the left and going across 1930 01:25:29,380 --> 01:25:27,800 the object and then a green coming from 1931 01:25:32,710 --> 01:25:29,390 the right going across the object and 1932 01:25:33,730 --> 01:25:32,720 they were exactly you know some like two 1933 01:25:35,610 --> 01:25:33,740 seconds apart 1934 01:25:39,610 --> 01:25:35,620 exactly repeating repeating repeating 1935 01:25:42,370 --> 01:25:39,620 and I thought no you know that that kind 1936 01:25:45,340 --> 01:25:42,380 of rules out any atmospheric disturbance 1937 01:25:48,010 --> 01:25:45,350 that you might see that could cause a 1938 01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:48,020 star or planet to flicker because this 1939 01:25:54,220 --> 01:25:51,650 was an exact timing well then some of 1940 01:25:56,590 --> 01:25:54,230 the people said more people arrived on 1941 01:25:58,210 --> 01:25:56,600 the scene and they pointed to the other 1942 01:25:59,830 --> 01:25:58,220 object and said come over here and look 1943 01:26:03,040 --> 01:25:59,840 at this they're all excited and yelling 1944 01:26:05,770 --> 01:26:03,050 and the the TV reporters in all exciting 1945 01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:05,780 news you got to see this so I look at it 1946 01:26:11,230 --> 01:26:08,210 through my high-powered binoculars and I 1947 01:26:14,620 --> 01:26:11,240 see red white blue red white blue 1948 01:26:17,410 --> 01:26:14,630 spinning and like something was spinning 1949 01:26:21,910 --> 01:26:17,420 in a circle and making these whites 1950 01:26:23,610 --> 01:26:21,920 appear like every second or half second 1951 01:26:27,850 --> 01:26:23,620 but it was you know so I could count it 1952 01:26:31,090 --> 01:26:27,860 it was just way too exact so it had to 1953 01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:31,100 be some type of a mechanical object up 1954 01:26:38,650 --> 01:26:36,530 there so we I mean since then I have 1955 01:26:42,430 --> 01:26:38,660 seen that object at least 15 times 1956 01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:42,440 myself I have had many people reported 1957 01:26:47,950 --> 01:26:44,650 in the Greater Kansas City area 1958 01:26:49,660 --> 01:26:47,960 sometimes people report seeing objects 1959 01:26:52,660 --> 01:26:49,670 come out of this thing 1960 01:26:55,780 --> 01:26:52,670 go down to the ground and then go back 1961 01:26:59,920 --> 01:26:55,790 up into it as if they're smaller craft 1962 01:27:02,080 --> 01:26:59,930 going down and then going up some people 1963 01:27:03,190 --> 01:27:02,090 say that they'll watch it for hours and 1964 01:27:04,300 --> 01:27:03,200 stay in the same place and all of a 1965 01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:04,310 sudden it'll disappear and reappear 1966 01:27:09,790 --> 01:27:08,330 again or shoot across the sky at a 1967 01:27:12,820 --> 01:27:09,800 certain place and go back to its 1968 01:27:15,370 --> 01:27:12,830 original location I've got the 1969 01:27:18,250 --> 01:27:15,380 television reporter Dave Jordan and by 1970 01:27:19,630 --> 01:27:18,260 the way this is on kctv5 if you want to 1971 01:27:21,820 --> 01:27:19,640 look it up and I think it got it on 1972 01:27:25,470 --> 01:27:21,830 YouTube the interviews I did three 1973 01:27:29,440 --> 01:27:25,480 interviews with them he said he and his 1974 01:27:31,060 --> 01:27:29,450 camera woman saw these streaks of light 1975 01:27:33,480 --> 01:27:31,070 is bread and 1976 01:27:36,790 --> 01:27:33,490 streaks of light shooting across the sky 1977 01:27:38,590 --> 01:27:36,800 always in a horizontal pattern the 1978 01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:38,600 camera woman was so scared she wouldn't 1979 01:27:44,410 --> 01:27:42,290 go back again and so he had a another 1980 01:27:47,440 --> 01:27:44,420 cameraman come for the next night that I 1981 01:27:49,330 --> 01:27:47,450 was there and then a few days later as 1982 01:27:51,820 --> 01:27:49,340 well doing these other interviews 1983 01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:51,830 because you know she was too scared to 1984 01:27:57,430 --> 01:27:55,370 do it I saw one of these streaks as well 1985 01:28:00,130 --> 01:27:57,440 as a co-investigator it was with me at 1986 01:28:01,510 --> 01:28:00,140 the time and it was so blinding I happen 1987 01:28:03,100 --> 01:28:01,520 to be looking through my high-powered 1988 01:28:05,500 --> 01:28:03,110 binoculars at the time trying to set him 1989 01:28:08,500 --> 01:28:05,510 up looking at one of these objects and 1990 01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:08,510 the streak went by and I had to take my 1991 01:28:12,220 --> 01:28:10,370 eyes away and close my eyes because it 1992 01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:12,230 just actually blinded me it was so 1993 01:28:18,370 --> 01:28:16,010 bright so after that I hadn't even 1994 01:28:21,670 --> 01:28:18,380 filled out this report and submitted it 1995 01:28:24,250 --> 01:28:21,680 online yet when all more reports started 1996 01:28:26,980 --> 01:28:24,260 coming in from Lee's Summit and Raytown 1997 01:28:29,470 --> 01:28:26,990 and Blue Springs of these streaks of 1998 01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:29,480 light going through the sky we're always 1999 01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:32,330 red and white and nobody has been able 2000 01:28:39,250 --> 01:28:35,090 to explain that yet but the spinning 2001 01:28:42,370 --> 01:28:39,260 lights in the sky have continued until 2002 01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:42,380 about four weeks ago when they just 2003 01:28:47,380 --> 01:28:44,810 seemingly suddenly stopped and nobody 2004 01:28:49,230 --> 01:28:47,390 had seen one since Kris you want to pick 2005 01:28:52,510 --> 01:28:49,240 up on the question or what yeah it's 2006 01:28:55,570 --> 01:28:52,520 very intriguing it does sound like 2007 01:28:59,020 --> 01:28:55,580 something I strange it doesn't conform 2008 01:29:00,730 --> 01:28:59,030 to Babel guys setting or Arcturus rising 2009 01:29:02,770 --> 01:29:00,740 although some of the descriptions are 2010 01:29:04,390 --> 01:29:02,780 similar when you get into things 2011 01:29:07,060 --> 01:29:04,400 streaking across the sky or hanging in 2012 01:29:08,770 --> 01:29:07,070 the same place for an extended period of 2013 01:29:10,810 --> 01:29:08,780 time and not move not appearing to move 2014 01:29:15,790 --> 01:29:10,820 at all then obviously that's not a star 2015 01:29:17,230 --> 01:29:15,800 or planet so it sounds like this one 2016 01:29:19,660 --> 01:29:17,240 object though it was it was actually 2017 01:29:23,440 --> 01:29:19,670 over Kansas if you're looking North by 2018 01:29:25,780 --> 01:29:23,450 Northwest 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2143 01:34:43,100 --> 01:34:40,530 two four seven zero that's eight six six 2144 01:34:45,980 --> 01:34:43,110 seven three five twenty four seventy or 2145 01:34:52,070 --> 01:34:45,990 on the web at bright side men calm 2146 01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:56,420 [Music] 2147 01:35:08,090 --> 01:34:59,760 you do listen to the para cast because 2148 01:35:12,390 --> 01:35:10,320 returning to the power cast with Gene 2149 01:35:14,010 --> 01:35:12,400 and Chris talking to Margie K assistant 2150 01:35:16,860 --> 01:35:14,020 state director for Missouri MUFON 2151 01:35:18,930 --> 01:35:16,870 Margery in looking over this wave of 2152 01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:18,940 sightings that appears to have abated 2153 01:35:23,730 --> 01:35:20,890 now but you never know if UFOs they may 2154 01:35:27,330 --> 01:35:23,740 be back tomorrow how far afield do they 2155 01:35:29,010 --> 01:35:27,340 go from the center being Kansas City if 2156 01:35:32,870 --> 01:35:29,020 we assume that's the center portion of 2157 01:35:36,930 --> 01:35:32,880 this how far from there did they go well 2158 01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:36,940 as I said they seem to kind of 2159 01:35:42,060 --> 01:35:39,850 congregate around Kansas City Missouri 2160 01:35:45,090 --> 01:35:42,070 Raytown Lee's Summit and independence 2161 01:35:49,020 --> 01:35:45,100 with some scattered areas north of there 2162 01:35:52,470 --> 01:35:49,030 and Liberty in Clay County for the most 2163 01:35:56,250 --> 01:35:52,480 part that is the area where the reports 2164 01:35:58,500 --> 01:35:56,260 are coming from the however over the 2165 01:36:01,350 --> 01:35:58,510 past couple of months two or three 2166 01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:01,360 months we started getting reports from 2167 01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:06,730 elsewhere in the state in Nevada Clinton 2168 01:36:12,870 --> 01:36:09,130 Missouri is a big hotspot Clinton and 2169 01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:12,880 Warsaw around the lake area and Piedmont 2170 01:36:18,630 --> 01:36:16,210 Missouri and also further near 2171 01:36:23,670 --> 01:36:18,640 Springfield but still in in the country 2172 01:36:25,410 --> 01:36:23,680 and why I went to an investigation in 2173 01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:25,420 the one in Springfield with Debbie 2174 01:36:31,110 --> 01:36:28,090 jiggle Meyer and our chief investigator 2175 01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:31,120 for the state Joe Palermo the three of 2176 01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:33,730 us went out to investigate this very 2177 01:36:38,580 --> 01:36:36,130 strange area where there had been some 2178 01:36:42,870 --> 01:36:38,590 cattle mutilations in the last two years 2179 01:36:45,630 --> 01:36:42,880 and they're correlating this light in 2180 01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:45,640 the sky as it's been come to know be 2181 01:36:54,210 --> 01:36:51,130 known of now and we stayed there all 2182 01:36:58,470 --> 01:36:54,220 evening I didn't see anything 2183 01:37:00,990 --> 01:36:58,480 significant left and I looked in my 2184 01:37:03,030 --> 01:37:01,000 rearview mirror as I was going down the 2185 01:37:03,899 --> 01:37:03,040 end of this really really long drive way 2186 01:37:07,379 --> 01:37:03,909 out and 2187 01:37:08,069 --> 01:37:07,389 middle of nowhere and I jumped out of my 2188 01:37:11,699 --> 01:37:08,079 car 2189 01:37:14,129 --> 01:37:11,709 she stopped and jumped out and said 2190 01:37:17,580 --> 01:37:14,139 you'd better look at that and there is 2191 01:37:19,949 --> 01:37:17,590 the object again flashing red white blue 2192 01:37:24,089 --> 01:37:19,959 red white blue and just absolutely huge 2193 01:37:28,770 --> 01:37:24,099 way bigger than any star or planet could 2194 01:37:32,549 --> 01:37:28,780 possibly be so now she has seen it thank 2195 01:37:34,529 --> 01:37:32,559 goodness and nuts you had you got a 2196 01:37:38,189 --> 01:37:34,539 witness I love when that happens 2197 01:37:40,759 --> 01:37:38,199 oh yes oh yes well I've got it there's 2198 01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:40,769 another there's another person in 2199 01:37:46,290 --> 01:37:44,530 Independence on 39th Street who reported 2200 01:37:49,890 --> 01:37:46,300 the same thing and I took another 2201 01:37:53,399 --> 01:37:49,900 investigator went out but his case is 2202 01:37:55,949 --> 01:37:53,409 even stranger he started off seeing this 2203 01:37:59,370 --> 01:37:55,959 object in the sky noticing it he has 2204 01:38:01,500 --> 01:37:59,380 he's an amateur astronomer and he said 2205 01:38:02,729 --> 01:38:01,510 he thought you know that just doesn't 2206 01:38:05,069 --> 01:38:02,739 look normal 2207 01:38:08,129 --> 01:38:05,079 I wonder what that thing is he said and 2208 01:38:11,909 --> 01:38:08,139 so he's thinking to himself I think I'll 2209 01:38:14,669 --> 01:38:11,919 flash a Fibonacci sequence at this 2210 01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:14,679 object with my flashlight explain what 2211 01:38:21,330 --> 01:38:18,489 that is to our listeners well anybody 2212 01:38:24,750 --> 01:38:21,340 who's into mathematics knows you know 2213 01:38:26,669 --> 01:38:24,760 the fibonacci spiral and the sequence is 2214 01:38:29,699 --> 01:38:26,679 you start off with one and then you 2215 01:38:31,199 --> 01:38:29,709 double the size of that object and then 2216 01:38:34,739 --> 01:38:31,209 you double the size of that one until 2217 01:38:36,929 --> 01:38:34,749 you get until as you double the size of 2218 01:38:40,770 --> 01:38:36,939 these squares you get this this spiral 2219 01:38:42,330 --> 01:38:40,780 shape so anyway he thought that he would 2220 01:38:44,489 --> 01:38:42,340 do something like that to catch its 2221 01:38:47,250 --> 01:38:44,499 attention so he uses a million power 2222 01:38:51,390 --> 01:38:47,260 candle a million candle power 2223 01:38:52,979 --> 01:38:51,400 flashlights and then the object seemed 2224 01:38:55,229 --> 01:38:52,989 to come closer to him 2225 01:38:56,790 --> 01:38:55,239 so he thought better of it and he 2226 01:39:01,560 --> 01:38:56,800 thought maybe he shouldn't have done 2227 01:39:04,279 --> 01:39:01,570 that so he aimed his camera his outdoor 2228 01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:04,289 the security alarm system has a 2229 01:39:10,709 --> 01:39:07,570 night-vision camera on it he aimed that 2230 01:39:12,589 --> 01:39:10,719 at the light and then went inside locked 2231 01:39:16,020 --> 01:39:12,599 up the house like usual and went to bed 2232 01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:16,030 he woke up the next morning well 2233 01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:17,770 actually afternoon 2234 01:39:23,370 --> 01:39:20,650 1 p.m. which was very rare because he 2235 01:39:25,110 --> 01:39:23,380 always wakes up early he got up and went 2236 01:39:27,510 --> 01:39:25,120 into the living room when his two dogs 2237 01:39:30,390 --> 01:39:27,520 wanted to go outside they pushed on the 2238 01:39:33,630 --> 01:39:30,400 door to his outside deck and it opened 2239 01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:33,640 so it had been unlocked the deadbolt 2240 01:39:39,690 --> 01:39:36,370 unlocked and the alarm system had been 2241 01:39:44,090 --> 01:39:39,700 disabled so he thought that was very 2242 01:39:48,770 --> 01:39:44,100 strange and he then reviewed his tape 2243 01:39:52,950 --> 01:39:48,780 which shows an object in his backyard in 2244 01:39:57,930 --> 01:39:52,960 front of the trees that looks like a UFO 2245 01:40:02,700 --> 01:39:57,940 and it's a white object it remains there 2246 01:40:04,890 --> 01:40:02,710 for hours the tape is one of those that 2247 01:40:06,630 --> 01:40:04,900 is activated by movement and then it 2248 01:40:09,180 --> 01:40:06,640 will videotape for a period of time and 2249 01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:09,190 then stop and then movement will make it 2250 01:40:13,770 --> 01:40:11,170 activate again so you see this starting 2251 01:40:17,190 --> 01:40:13,780 and stopping throughout you know a 2252 01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:17,200 several hour period overnight and this 2253 01:40:20,970 --> 01:40:19,090 object remains in the same place the 2254 01:40:24,710 --> 01:40:20,980 whole time the odd part about it is 2255 01:40:28,260 --> 01:40:24,720 there's another smaller object that is a 2256 01:40:31,140 --> 01:40:28,270 long like a rod you know with curved 2257 01:40:32,940 --> 01:40:31,150 ends that's very bright and it starts 2258 01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:32,950 off in the corner underneath this other 2259 01:40:38,070 --> 01:40:34,810 object and then at one point it just 2260 01:40:40,350 --> 01:40:38,080 zooms up to the top right behind this 2261 01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:40,360 object and stays there the rest of the 2262 01:40:45,900 --> 01:40:42,370 evening and then you don't even see 2263 01:40:48,090 --> 01:40:45,910 these objects leave they're just gone by 2264 01:40:50,550 --> 01:40:48,100 the time daylight hits they just kind of 2265 01:40:50,910 --> 01:40:50,560 they fade out by the time daylight gets 2266 01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:50,920 there 2267 01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:53,290 I've had this tape analyzed by three 2268 01:40:59,520 --> 01:40:56,410 different people nobody can figure out 2269 01:41:02,010 --> 01:40:59,530 if this I mean they're all saying this 2270 01:41:03,990 --> 01:41:02,020 was not faked it's all original tape it 2271 01:41:06,450 --> 01:41:04,000 has not been photoshopped or anything 2272 01:41:09,480 --> 01:41:06,460 like that and they but nobody can figure 2273 01:41:11,370 --> 01:41:09,490 out what it is that's pretty bizarre man 2274 01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:11,380 you're getting some good quality stuff 2275 01:41:16,740 --> 01:41:13,210 out there it seems like this is bizarre 2276 01:41:20,010 --> 01:41:16,750 City yeah yeah well that too but you 2277 01:41:22,440 --> 01:41:20,020 mentioned before it kind of reminds me 2278 01:41:24,450 --> 01:41:22,450 of a very interesting case you mentioned 2279 01:41:26,820 --> 01:41:24,460 the cow mutilation phenomenon I have 2280 01:41:29,070 --> 01:41:26,830 heard of a number of cases over as you 2281 01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:29,080 mentioned in past couple years but one 2282 01:41:33,470 --> 01:41:31,090 case in particular got Nash 2283 01:41:37,410 --> 01:41:33,480 notoriety because it happened actually 2284 01:41:39,060 --> 01:41:37,420 at the Kansas City Airport with inside 2285 01:41:40,709 --> 01:41:39,070 of the control tower I mean you could 2286 01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:40,719 look down from the control tower right 2287 01:41:46,229 --> 01:41:43,330 to where this animal was found now as a 2288 01:41:49,649 --> 01:41:46,239 little bit of a setup I guess the the 2289 01:41:52,140 --> 01:41:49,659 city or whoever administers the actual 2290 01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:52,150 land around the airport leases it out 2291 01:41:56,220 --> 01:41:54,489 certain parts of it as as grazing land 2292 01:41:59,129 --> 01:41:56,230 for cattle which would explain why that 2293 01:42:01,290 --> 01:41:59,139 the cattle were there but why don't you 2294 01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:01,300 give us a little bit of a blow-by-blow 2295 01:42:06,060 --> 01:42:03,250 on that particular case because I found 2296 01:42:07,890 --> 01:42:06,070 that incredibly compelling and as as I 2297 01:42:10,950 --> 01:42:07,900 mentioned it did make national news oh 2298 01:42:13,050 --> 01:42:10,960 sure actually it was when I was watching 2299 01:42:15,990 --> 01:42:13,060 the news that I first heard about it and 2300 01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:16,000 I contacted the reporter and I said you 2301 01:42:20,129 --> 01:42:18,130 know please put me in contact with the 2302 01:42:23,129 --> 01:42:20,139 witness so that I can discuss this with 2303 01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:23,139 them and he emailed me back and he was a 2304 01:42:26,669 --> 01:42:24,610 little timid he didn't want any 2305 01:42:30,060 --> 01:42:26,679 publicity he didn't want any problems 2306 01:42:32,459 --> 01:42:30,070 with the owners of the property because 2307 01:42:34,620 --> 01:42:32,469 they lease that land took further cattle 2308 01:42:36,750 --> 01:42:34,630 to graze on and the reason they let the 2309 01:42:38,550 --> 01:42:36,760 cattle do that is to keep the grass down 2310 01:42:40,740 --> 01:42:38,560 so the deer don't go out there on the 2311 01:42:43,410 --> 01:42:40,750 runway so they have the whole area 2312 01:42:44,910 --> 01:42:43,420 around there is cattle grazing land well 2313 01:42:47,339 --> 01:42:44,920 he didn't want to lose that land so I 2314 01:42:50,010 --> 01:42:47,349 said ok you know I I won't ever tell 2315 01:42:52,229 --> 01:42:50,020 anybody your name or your location he 2316 01:42:54,270 --> 01:42:52,239 said ok come on out and so I took an 2317 01:42:57,600 --> 01:42:54,280 investigator with me it was on January 2318 01:43:01,229 --> 01:42:57,610 the 6th when this occurred and I was out 2319 01:43:03,660 --> 01:43:01,239 there within a day or two after that he 2320 01:43:06,540 --> 01:43:03,670 said you can look at the you know where 2321 01:43:08,669 --> 01:43:06,550 the cow is but I've moved it he moved it 2322 01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:08,679 because it was only like you know 30 2323 01:43:14,490 --> 01:43:12,130 feet from the road and people were 2324 01:43:18,270 --> 01:43:14,500 talking at it so he moved it out of 2325 01:43:20,609 --> 01:43:18,280 sight but I got to go in with another 2326 01:43:23,189 --> 01:43:20,619 investigator like I said and then this 2327 01:43:25,140 --> 01:43:23,199 the cattle rancher had a problem with 2328 01:43:27,330 --> 01:43:25,150 aggressive his herd and he had to leave 2329 01:43:29,879 --> 01:43:27,340 so you know he left us there to 2330 01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:29,889 investigate but what he told me before 2331 01:43:37,050 --> 01:43:34,210 he left is that the day before the cow 2332 01:43:38,220 --> 01:43:37,060 had been put into this Vincente area to 2333 01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:38,230 keep it away from the rest of her 2334 01:43:43,470 --> 01:43:41,770 because she was acting sick and I guess 2335 01:43:45,089 --> 01:43:43,480 she had been there for you know three or 2336 01:43:46,979 --> 01:43:45,099 four days but the day before 2337 01:43:48,839 --> 01:43:46,989 he was out there with the vet and she 2338 01:43:51,389 --> 01:43:48,849 was doing very well and she was standing 2339 01:43:52,799 --> 01:43:51,399 again and walking around and and the vet 2340 01:43:55,770 --> 01:43:52,809 said you know you can probably let her 2341 01:43:57,479 --> 01:43:55,780 into the rest of her tomorrow so he gets 2342 01:43:59,459 --> 01:43:57,489 there about eight o'clock in the morning 2343 01:44:03,689 --> 01:43:59,469 to let her in with the rest of their 2344 01:44:06,029 --> 01:44:03,699 herd and he finds her dead and finds 2345 01:44:09,119 --> 01:44:06,039 parts have been cut out with precision 2346 01:44:14,069 --> 01:44:09,129 cuts and that there's no blood anywhere 2347 01:44:17,279 --> 01:44:14,079 and there's no signs of the footprints 2348 01:44:19,859 --> 01:44:17,289 or or any person having been on the 2349 01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:19,869 property well he calls the vet and the 2350 01:44:25,199 --> 01:44:22,570 vet comes out and and he even said this 2351 01:44:28,409 --> 01:44:25,209 on line you know on the radio interview 2352 01:44:30,119 --> 01:44:28,419 television interviews that this was done 2353 01:44:33,029 --> 01:44:30,129 by somebody who knew what they were 2354 01:44:34,889 --> 01:44:33,039 doing with precision instruments and 2355 01:44:40,979 --> 01:44:34,899 that's all the further he would go about 2356 01:44:43,799 --> 01:44:40,989 it well so I wanted to see the cow first 2357 01:44:46,349 --> 01:44:43,809 of all but the location where she had 2358 01:44:49,589 --> 01:44:46,359 been found was I was kind of glad that 2359 01:44:52,909 --> 01:44:49,599 he did move her because we were able to 2360 01:44:57,299 --> 01:44:52,919 see that this very hard ground had been 2361 01:45:00,359 --> 01:44:57,309 indented a couple of inches as if the 2362 01:45:02,909 --> 01:45:00,369 cow had been dropped in that space and 2363 01:45:05,429 --> 01:45:02,919 you could see the outline of the cow's 2364 01:45:07,349 --> 01:45:05,439 head and feed and the body you know I 2365 01:45:10,049 --> 01:45:07,359 could tell what directions she was lying 2366 01:45:12,689 --> 01:45:10,059 and everything I'll tell you what this 2367 01:45:14,879 --> 01:45:12,699 is just getting so exciting what might 2368 01:45:17,399 --> 01:45:14,889 have happened to this cow more to talk 2369 01:45:28,149 --> 01:45:17,409 about with Margie k with Gene and Kris 2370 01:45:33,970 --> 01:45:31,300 are you tired of searching for great 2371 01:45:34,959 --> 01:45:33,980 talk radio the more important search 2372 01:45:39,790 --> 01:45:34,969 Noboru 2373 01:45:41,500 --> 01:45:39,800 we are the GCM radio network hi this is 2374 01:45:43,780 --> 01:45:41,510 Ted Anderson if you'd like to listen to 2375 01:45:46,419 --> 01:45:43,790 GCM programs on the goal I have great 2376 01:45:48,610 --> 01:45:46,429 news gzn has created a Droid and iPhone 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2419 01:47:46,170 --> 01:47:38,210 five zero eight two three one 2420 01:47:54,210 --> 01:47:49,870 welcome back to the para cast the gold 2421 01:48:01,540 --> 01:47:54,220 standard of paranormal radio and now 2422 01:48:03,130 --> 01:48:01,550 here's Jean Steinberg with Jean and 2423 01:48:07,480 --> 01:48:03,140 Chris on the power cast Marty cane 2424 01:48:09,790 --> 01:48:07,490 joining us a usual cattle related event 2425 01:48:14,860 --> 01:48:09,800 which we put under the broad category of 2426 01:48:17,500 --> 01:48:14,870 mutilations so tell us more okay so it 2427 01:48:18,550 --> 01:48:17,510 gets even stranger as if this isn't 2428 01:48:23,130 --> 01:48:18,560 strange enough already 2429 01:48:27,070 --> 01:48:23,140 as if it isn't already I took along some 2430 01:48:31,480 --> 01:48:27,080 items in order to do some soil sampling 2431 01:48:34,030 --> 01:48:31,490 so we took samples from inside the area 2432 01:48:37,300 --> 01:48:34,040 where the cow was on the ground had been 2433 01:48:40,690 --> 01:48:37,310 on the ground and then some samples from 2434 01:48:45,670 --> 01:48:40,700 30 yards away pack those off I sent them 2435 01:48:49,110 --> 01:48:45,680 off to Chuck Zukowski in Colorado who is 2436 01:48:52,480 --> 01:48:49,120 a one of the top and all mutilation 2437 01:48:54,910 --> 01:48:52,490 experts and he has a lab there in 2438 01:48:58,390 --> 01:48:54,920 Colorado where he could send this stuff 2439 01:49:01,000 --> 01:48:58,400 so he sent my samples and his samples 2440 01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:01,010 into the lab and I'll tell you the 2441 01:49:04,330 --> 01:49:01,970 results in a minute 2442 01:49:10,270 --> 01:49:04,340 the next is almost just as good as 2443 01:49:12,670 --> 01:49:10,280 having a cliffhanger so the next thing 2444 01:49:16,630 --> 01:49:12,680 we did it was kind of rough terrain and 2445 01:49:19,930 --> 01:49:16,640 very cold out so my fellow investigator 2446 01:49:22,210 --> 01:49:19,940 who is this big burly policeman said he 2447 01:49:24,580 --> 01:49:22,220 he will go out to the rest of the area 2448 01:49:27,340 --> 01:49:24,590 and look for this cow well the rancher 2449 01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:27,350 had pointed to the area where the cow 2450 01:49:35,140 --> 01:49:31,370 had been taken and so my partner went 2451 01:49:36,790 --> 01:49:35,150 out and he could not see the cow he so 2452 01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:36,800 we're communicating on cell phones even 2453 01:49:40,480 --> 01:49:38,330 though we could see each other and in 2454 01:49:42,370 --> 01:49:40,490 the distance it's not here there's 2455 01:49:45,460 --> 01:49:42,380 nothing there's nothing here so he 2456 01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:45,470 proceeded to walk the whole property he 2457 01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:47,210 walked all all around back and forth 2458 01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:49,850 back and forth could not see that cow 2459 01:49:58,030 --> 01:49:54,890 anywhere then he came back and I sent 2460 01:49:59,260 --> 01:49:58,040 the samples off we left I called the 2461 01:50:01,600 --> 01:49:59,270 rancher back and 2462 01:50:04,390 --> 01:50:01,610 sure said you were that my partner was 2463 01:50:06,670 --> 01:50:04,400 standing right in front of that cow he 2464 01:50:08,770 --> 01:50:06,680 says why you know why didn't you look at 2465 01:50:10,150 --> 01:50:08,780 it I said we couldn't see it there 2466 01:50:13,420 --> 01:50:10,160 wasn't anything there he says you know 2467 01:50:17,110 --> 01:50:13,430 it is it's it's it's there so for some 2468 01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:17,120 reason this trained policeman as a 2469 01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:20,090 trained investigator could not see this 2470 01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:22,850 cow it was right in front of them 2471 01:50:26,980 --> 01:50:25,250 2,000 town cow now we're talking here 2472 01:50:29,260 --> 01:50:26,990 about the same phenomena as we had 2473 01:50:32,620 --> 01:50:29,270 earlier where there were UFOs that 2474 01:50:33,910 --> 01:50:32,630 people couldn't see exactly and you 2475 01:50:38,050 --> 01:50:33,920 don't think a cow is going to be that 2476 01:50:39,130 --> 01:50:38,060 strange no you're not and you know 2477 01:50:41,170 --> 01:50:39,140 Annika said he's a trained investigator 2478 01:50:44,020 --> 01:50:41,180 if there was something there he would 2479 01:50:46,660 --> 01:50:44,030 have seen it but why he couldn't see it 2480 01:50:49,180 --> 01:50:46,670 I have no idea I don't it's just you 2481 01:50:50,950 --> 01:50:49,190 know up for speculation as to why so 2482 01:50:52,870 --> 01:50:50,960 bottom line is we didn't get to get any 2483 01:50:54,460 --> 01:50:52,880 samples from it but it had it actually 2484 01:50:57,430 --> 01:50:54,470 been several days since the event 2485 01:50:59,620 --> 01:50:57,440 occurred so who knows maybe that 2486 01:51:01,960 --> 01:50:59,630 wouldn't have been you know in the best 2487 01:51:04,300 --> 01:51:01,970 condition to be taking even pictures no 2488 01:51:07,570 --> 01:51:04,310 not necessarily that time of year again 2489 01:51:09,130 --> 01:51:07,580 January yeah I know you're if you're 2490 01:51:11,050 --> 01:51:09,140 that that thing's being refrigerated 2491 01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:11,060 it's gonna last a lot longer than it 2492 01:51:15,370 --> 01:51:13,130 would in August let's put it that way 2493 01:51:17,950 --> 01:51:15,380 well we had actually had a couple of 2494 01:51:20,410 --> 01:51:17,960 warm days the first two days that it was 2495 01:51:23,020 --> 01:51:20,420 out there it didn't cool off to the 2496 01:51:25,540 --> 01:51:23,030 second two days be that as it may were 2497 01:51:28,630 --> 01:51:25,550 unable to get photographic evidence or 2498 01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:28,640 take any of the hide but the soil 2499 01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:31,610 samples the same time Chuck sent my 2500 01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:33,770 samples and he sent samples from another 2501 01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:35,930 cattle mutilation that he had just done 2502 01:51:43,570 --> 01:51:39,410 this is in Colorado and it happens to be 2503 01:51:46,150 --> 01:51:43,580 on the 39th degree latitude just like 2504 01:51:47,980 --> 01:51:46,160 Kansas City which is another thing 2505 01:51:51,370 --> 01:51:47,990 that's happening but we'll get back to 2506 01:51:56,020 --> 01:51:51,380 that so he gets me the results and the 2507 01:51:58,960 --> 01:51:56,030 results are that the soil itself has 2508 01:52:02,320 --> 01:51:58,970 been turned into extremely non-water 2509 01:52:04,780 --> 01:52:02,330 soluble soil which means that it was 2510 01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:04,790 subjected to extremely high temperatures 2511 01:52:11,110 --> 01:52:08,570 in both cases and this is the first time 2512 01:52:12,700 --> 01:52:11,120 that either one of us have heard of any 2513 01:52:15,100 --> 01:52:12,710 investigator 2514 01:52:17,740 --> 01:52:15,110 up with a conclusion like that so we 2515 01:52:20,650 --> 01:52:17,750 cannot wait to do the next cattle 2516 01:52:24,820 --> 01:52:20,660 mutilation that comes along to get that 2517 01:52:26,410 --> 01:52:24,830 soil tested it actually has that kind of 2518 01:52:29,260 --> 01:52:26,420 determination has been made in the past 2519 01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:29,270 but but continued really well I would 2520 01:52:36,790 --> 01:52:32,090 like to hear about that okay so we can 2521 01:52:38,770 --> 01:52:36,800 so we can compare notes so I mean there 2522 01:52:41,860 --> 01:52:38,780 you have it I mean that's that's it for 2523 01:52:43,870 --> 01:52:41,870 now on that particular case yeah let me 2524 01:52:47,770 --> 01:52:43,880 just interject something here of what 2525 01:52:49,630 --> 01:52:47,780 makes this case a standout case and in 2526 01:52:53,050 --> 01:52:49,640 my mind and what makes it extremely 2527 01:52:55,330 --> 01:52:53,060 important is the fact that you had the 2528 01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:55,340 control tower of an international 2529 01:52:59,290 --> 01:52:56,090 airport 2530 01:53:00,790 --> 01:52:59,300 less than a quarter mile away you 2531 01:53:02,890 --> 01:53:00,800 correct me if I'm wrong in terms of my 2532 01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:02,900 distance based on the photograph I saw I 2533 01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:04,610 mean the cows in the foreground and 2534 01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:06,890 there's the control tower just hundreds 2535 01:53:10,690 --> 01:53:09,290 of yards away yeah no no we all know 2536 01:53:13,140 --> 01:53:10,700 that somebody is in that code there's a 2537 01:53:17,590 --> 01:53:13,150 number of people in that control tower 2538 01:53:21,130 --> 01:53:17,600 24/7 at all times and nobody to my 2539 01:53:22,780 --> 01:53:21,140 knowledge has any idea of what could 2540 01:53:28,780 --> 01:53:22,790 have come down and done that within a 2541 01:53:31,870 --> 01:53:28,790 very secure and highly observed area did 2542 01:53:33,850 --> 01:53:31,880 you do any work with the the airport 2543 01:53:36,370 --> 01:53:33,860 officials did you did you talk to the 2544 01:53:37,870 --> 01:53:36,380 guys that have the the taxing radar the 2545 01:53:39,310 --> 01:53:37,880 ground radar for oh yeah 2546 01:53:41,770 --> 01:53:39,320 determination finance or anything like 2547 01:53:43,420 --> 01:53:41,780 that would give us a sense of what 2548 01:53:47,470 --> 01:53:43,430 airport personnel what their thinking 2549 01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:47,480 was well they all claimed that there was 2550 01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:49,930 that nothing unusual that evening that 2551 01:53:54,580 --> 01:53:51,890 nothing happened now we know it had to 2552 01:53:57,580 --> 01:53:54,590 happen overnight so it you know was in 2553 01:53:59,860 --> 01:53:57,590 the dark but they all claimed that 2554 01:54:01,560 --> 01:53:59,870 nothing unusual was happening however I 2555 01:54:05,530 --> 01:54:01,570 think I can shed some light on that 2556 01:54:07,229 --> 01:54:05,540 because since then we've had and there 2557 01:54:11,229 --> 01:54:07,239 was a very very highly publicized 2558 01:54:14,020 --> 01:54:11,239 incident was a pilot who had a UFO 2559 01:54:18,310 --> 01:54:14,030 approached him as he flew from st. Louis 2560 01:54:21,610 --> 01:54:18,320 to Kansas City and that went public 2561 01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:21,620 this pilot called me on the phone to 2562 01:54:26,649 --> 01:54:24,530 make his report and he said I can't give 2563 01:54:28,270 --> 01:54:26,659 you my name and I can't 2564 01:54:30,459 --> 01:54:28,280 give you any other information than what 2565 01:54:33,399 --> 01:54:30,469 I'm going to tell you he said I just had 2566 01:54:36,009 --> 01:54:33,409 to tell someone but the thing is he said 2567 01:54:38,199 --> 01:54:36,019 he said as for me and the pilot and the 2568 01:54:41,169 --> 01:54:38,209 other crew members who saw this we will 2569 01:54:43,979 --> 01:54:41,179 not be making any formal reports because 2570 01:54:46,810 --> 01:54:43,989 our jobs would be in jeopardy and that 2571 01:54:48,939 --> 01:54:46,820 and the thing is I've heard this before 2572 01:54:53,500 --> 01:54:48,949 I've had at least four other pilots tell 2573 01:54:55,899 --> 01:54:53,510 me this over the years that they are too 2574 01:54:57,879 --> 01:54:55,909 afraid to make a report because other 2575 01:55:01,330 --> 01:54:57,889 people who have done so have lost their 2576 01:55:05,169 --> 01:55:01,340 jobs or they've been threatened by 2577 01:55:07,419 --> 01:55:05,179 somebody they'll have in one case a 2578 01:55:10,779 --> 01:55:07,429 pilot was taken into a room privately 2579 01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:10,789 spoke with some gentleman in some black 2580 01:55:15,370 --> 01:55:13,130 suits who did not give them any 2581 01:55:18,969 --> 01:55:15,380 identification or tell them who their 2582 01:55:21,459 --> 01:55:18,979 names but that insisted that whatever he 2583 01:55:23,919 --> 01:55:21,469 saw was something else and something 2584 01:55:25,540 --> 01:55:23,929 else explainable until he finally said 2585 01:55:28,199 --> 01:55:25,550 he got the message 2586 01:55:30,790 --> 01:55:28,209 and agreed that that's what it was and 2587 01:55:32,500 --> 01:55:30,800 so retracted his statement that it was a 2588 01:55:36,449 --> 01:55:32,510 UFO did the guys in the black suits 2589 01:55:39,069 --> 01:55:36,459 tried to eat jello with a knife I know 2590 01:55:41,890 --> 01:55:39,079 when they were in wrap around shades and 2591 01:55:44,679 --> 01:55:41,900 singing rap songs no I don't think so 2592 01:55:47,279 --> 01:55:44,689 okay good second but you know were they 2593 01:55:50,709 --> 01:55:47,289 the men in black apparently they were 2594 01:55:53,799 --> 01:55:50,719 because they told him he didn't see what 2595 01:55:56,259 --> 01:55:53,809 he saw and so since that is pretty 2596 01:55:59,560 --> 01:55:56,269 typical it does not surprise me that 2597 01:56:01,330 --> 01:55:59,570 nobody at the airport saw anything or if 2598 01:56:02,890 --> 01:56:01,340 they saw something it's not as if 2599 01:56:04,989 --> 01:56:02,900 they're going to admit that they saw 2600 01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:04,999 anything now you bring up the specter of 2601 01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:07,610 the men in black in connection with 2602 01:56:10,689 --> 01:56:09,050 these sightings we understand you know 2603 01:56:12,909 --> 01:56:10,699 in an airport tower where things might 2604 01:56:15,129 --> 01:56:12,919 happen do we have people running around 2605 01:56:20,129 --> 01:56:15,139 doing the men in black shenanigans or is 2606 01:56:22,959 --> 01:56:20,139 this just a singular incident no we have 2607 01:56:26,259 --> 01:56:22,969 several cases that are you would call 2608 01:56:29,859 --> 01:56:26,269 big cases which would be contact cases 2609 01:56:32,589 --> 01:56:29,869 that I've worked on as well as other 2610 01:56:35,310 --> 01:56:32,599 people in the state when we do that we 2611 01:56:39,399 --> 01:56:35,320 get followed by government vehicles and 2612 01:56:40,479 --> 01:56:39,409 they make it so obvious and so easy for 2613 01:56:45,009 --> 01:56:40,489 us to see them 2614 01:56:47,709 --> 01:56:45,019 and and you know get so close to us and 2615 01:56:49,930 --> 01:56:47,719 in some cases in a parking lot or two of 2616 01:56:53,919 --> 01:56:49,940 them will park next to each other and 2617 01:56:55,569 --> 01:56:53,929 then follow us in a restaurant the sense 2618 01:56:57,160 --> 01:56:55,579 of how they're dressed or in the kind of 2619 01:57:00,549 --> 01:56:57,170 vehicle they drive or the license plate 2620 01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:00,559 both all three I mean they're doing it 2621 01:57:05,109 --> 01:57:03,650 to be obvious and and you know I don't 2622 01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:05,119 know if it's just some kind of a warning 2623 01:57:07,479 --> 01:57:06,650 or what but they're letting us know 2624 01:57:10,330 --> 01:57:07,489 they're there 2625 01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:10,340 you're being spooked by spooks yeah Wow 2626 01:57:15,009 --> 01:57:12,650 okay we always wonder in our forms that 2627 01:57:16,779 --> 01:57:15,019 form Death America's com who the 2628 01:57:19,180 --> 01:57:16,789 government 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three six seven eight tarae 2725 02:01:43,299 --> 02:01:40,329 Ganic s-- life's getting better 2726 02:01:45,310 --> 02:01:43,309 we'd like to hear from you if you have a 2727 02:01:49,299 --> 02:01:45,320 comment or question about the para cast 2728 02:01:52,750 --> 02:01:49,309 sent it to news at the para cast com 2729 02:01:54,729 --> 02:01:52,760 that's news at the para cast calm and 2730 02:01:57,910 --> 02:01:54,739 don't forget to visit our famous para 2731 02:02:00,299 --> 02:01:57,920 cast community forums at forum dot the 2732 02:02:03,100 --> 02:02:00,309 para cast com 2733 02:02:07,140 --> 02:02:03,110 hey there Gina and Chris you're in the 2734 02:02:09,399 --> 02:02:07,150 power cast we are exploring UFO flap in 2735 02:02:11,919 --> 02:02:09,409 2011-2012 in Kansas City we had some 2736 02:02:16,509 --> 02:02:11,929 cattle mutilation phenomenon all sorts 2737 02:02:20,680 --> 02:02:16,519 of UFOs mile-wide UFOs men in black all 2738 02:02:23,770 --> 02:02:20,690 sorts of things time changes and missing 2739 02:02:27,450 --> 02:02:23,780 time what about abductions anything yes 2740 02:02:31,419 --> 02:02:27,460 I do have a couple of cases where people 2741 02:02:34,270 --> 02:02:31,429 believe that they were abducted or have 2742 02:02:36,330 --> 02:02:34,280 missing time or found themselves in 2743 02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:36,340 locations where they couldn't explain 2744 02:02:42,279 --> 02:02:39,610 where they'd been or for how long and 2745 02:02:45,910 --> 02:02:42,289 you know they don't seem to remember 2746 02:02:48,910 --> 02:02:45,920 exact details of you know what happened 2747 02:02:51,910 --> 02:02:48,920 to them except that in one case a 2748 02:02:53,709 --> 02:02:51,920 gentleman remembers vague outlines of 2749 02:02:57,250 --> 02:02:53,719 people that he thought at first were 2750 02:03:01,569 --> 02:02:57,260 more doctors he was lying on a table and 2751 02:03:03,220 --> 02:03:01,579 then his eyes were very unfocused it was 2752 02:03:05,470 --> 02:03:03,230 almost as if there was some type of 2753 02:03:08,319 --> 02:03:05,480 fluid in his eyes that was preventing 2754 02:03:10,839 --> 02:03:08,329 him from seeing things clearly but he 2755 02:03:13,870 --> 02:03:10,849 could see enough to tell that he was in 2756 02:03:17,169 --> 02:03:13,880 a room that was all metallic and did not 2757 02:03:21,459 --> 02:03:17,179 look like a normal you know hospital 2758 02:03:24,250 --> 02:03:21,469 room at all and that these these doctors 2759 02:03:28,600 --> 02:03:24,260 then as I got clearer seemed to be very 2760 02:03:30,189 --> 02:03:28,610 short and had very large heads so but 2761 02:03:32,830 --> 02:03:30,199 that's about as much detail as he could 2762 02:03:34,779 --> 02:03:32,840 get on that well that leads me to a 2763 02:03:36,700 --> 02:03:34,789 question from one of our posters at 2764 02:03:39,370 --> 02:03:36,710 forum dr. Peric ask.com 2765 02:03:41,169 --> 02:03:39,380 name is Konrad Hartmann he's been a 2766 02:03:43,870 --> 02:03:41,179 member of the para cast since May of 2767 02:03:46,149 --> 02:03:43,880 this year and since we're on the subject 2768 02:03:49,450 --> 02:03:46,159 of abductions which he he wanted to 2769 02:03:51,220 --> 02:03:49,460 discuss with you in his question he goes 2770 02:03:53,560 --> 02:03:51,230 on to ask how were the experiences 2771 02:03:54,910 --> 02:03:53,570 affected after the event 2772 02:03:56,979 --> 02:03:54,920 and can you speak about any 2773 02:04:00,729 --> 02:03:56,989 psychological impact with these on these 2774 02:04:03,490 --> 02:04:00,739 witnesses or participants post-event and 2775 02:04:05,290 --> 02:04:03,500 then if we have time he says what are 2776 02:04:07,450 --> 02:04:05,300 your views on abduction research and 2777 02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:07,460 what do you think researchers are doing 2778 02:04:11,140 --> 02:04:09,050 right and what have they been doing 2779 02:04:14,260 --> 02:04:11,150 wrong it's kind of a that's a big 2780 02:04:15,819 --> 02:04:14,270 question but let's look at the at your 2781 02:04:20,069 --> 02:04:15,829 actual cases and how these people have 2782 02:04:22,810 --> 02:04:20,079 been affected well the underlying theme 2783 02:04:26,109 --> 02:04:22,820 psychologically what what people say to 2784 02:04:28,569 --> 02:04:26,119 me is my life has changed forever or I'm 2785 02:04:30,040 --> 02:04:28,579 never going to view things the same you 2786 02:04:33,339 --> 02:04:30,050 know they'll say they'll say something 2787 02:04:37,899 --> 02:04:33,349 very profound like that but in one 2788 02:04:40,330 --> 02:04:37,909 particular case a gentleman the one I 2789 02:04:42,819 --> 02:04:40,340 told you about 63rd Street with that 2790 02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:42,829 very very close encounter he's had 2791 02:04:48,640 --> 02:04:45,290 profound life-changing experiences and 2792 02:04:51,069 --> 02:04:48,650 one of the things that he suddenly was 2793 02:04:54,339 --> 02:04:51,079 able to do the day after this event he 2794 02:04:58,419 --> 02:04:54,349 got in his mind that he could heal 2795 02:05:01,030 --> 02:04:58,429 people and his partner his friend who 2796 02:05:04,439 --> 02:05:01,040 was also witnessed in this event was 2797 02:05:06,850 --> 02:05:04,449 suffering from migraine headache and 2798 02:05:08,260 --> 02:05:06,860 really really severe and we think it you 2799 02:05:11,500 --> 02:05:08,270 know may have been caused by the event 2800 02:05:14,800 --> 02:05:11,510 we don't know but this in front of his 2801 02:05:18,250 --> 02:05:14,810 who suddenly had the idea that he could 2802 02:05:20,530 --> 02:05:18,260 heal he says I can help you so he he 2803 02:05:22,750 --> 02:05:20,540 went over to the house just put his hand 2804 02:05:24,550 --> 02:05:22,760 on his shoulder and his thought about 2805 02:05:26,700 --> 02:05:24,560 the headache gone away and him feeling 2806 02:05:30,010 --> 02:05:26,710 better only was real knowledge as to and 2807 02:05:32,319 --> 02:05:30,020 within 10 minutes everything was gone 2808 02:05:33,939 --> 02:05:32,329 and he was he felt perfectly fine I'll 2809 02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:33,949 tell you I could use this guy because 2810 02:05:39,850 --> 02:05:36,650 I've been suffering a really severe set 2811 02:05:44,050 --> 02:05:39,860 of back pain since we move recently yeah 2812 02:05:48,339 --> 02:05:44,060 well you and a lot of other people but 2813 02:05:53,169 --> 02:05:48,349 it seems that he also healed this man's 2814 02:05:55,350 --> 02:05:53,179 daughter from severe asthma she had been 2815 02:05:58,120 --> 02:05:55,360 suffering from for years and years and 2816 02:06:00,580 --> 02:05:58,130 was you know going into a doctor's visit 2817 02:06:03,160 --> 02:06:00,590 the next day and he said well let me try 2818 02:06:05,680 --> 02:06:03,170 this so he he worked on her the next day 2819 02:06:07,510 --> 02:06:05,690 she went back to the doctor who reported 2820 02:06:10,150 --> 02:06:07,520 that she was here 2821 02:06:13,350 --> 02:06:10,160 of it and it was gone he couldn't 2822 02:06:15,810 --> 02:06:13,360 understand it he said what did you do so 2823 02:06:18,610 --> 02:06:15,820 and then the other thing is 2824 02:06:21,370 --> 02:06:18,620 psychologically that this man's 2825 02:06:23,020 --> 02:06:21,380 perspective on life has totally changed 2826 02:06:26,980 --> 02:06:23,030 his wife said his personality has 2827 02:06:29,250 --> 02:06:26,990 changed and he's you know a complete 2828 02:06:32,650 --> 02:06:29,260 different person now he's very calm 2829 02:06:35,830 --> 02:06:32,660 relaxed demeanor he does not get upset 2830 02:06:37,660 --> 02:06:35,840 at little things and you know just a 2831 02:06:39,730 --> 02:06:37,670 totally changed person 2832 02:06:42,550 --> 02:06:39,740 well that leads me to some questions 2833 02:06:44,230 --> 02:06:42,560 that I wanted to bring up related to the 2834 02:06:46,180 --> 02:06:44,240 gentleman that claims he's had hundreds 2835 02:06:47,340 --> 02:06:46,190 and hundreds of visitation experiences 2836 02:06:50,170 --> 02:06:47,350 since he was 12 2837 02:06:54,610 --> 02:06:50,180 over the space of what 51 years or 2838 02:06:57,010 --> 02:06:54,620 something what does he say the agenda is 2839 02:06:59,500 --> 02:06:57,020 why he has he been singled out to be 2840 02:07:01,990 --> 02:06:59,510 visited and what sort of relationships 2841 02:07:04,420 --> 02:07:02,000 as has the established can we get more 2842 02:07:07,270 --> 02:07:04,430 of a sense of these these beings that he 2843 02:07:09,370 --> 02:07:07,280 claims to be interacting with it seems 2844 02:07:12,220 --> 02:07:09,380 like probably one of the longest ongoing 2845 02:07:16,990 --> 02:07:12,230 claims of visitation I've ever heard of 2846 02:07:19,450 --> 02:07:17,000 a very very intriguing yes he says there 2847 02:07:22,360 --> 02:07:19,460 are multiple different types of over 30 2848 02:07:25,780 --> 02:07:22,370 different types of beings have visited 2849 02:07:27,340 --> 02:07:25,790 him and that he gave me a specific 2850 02:07:31,240 --> 02:07:27,350 number I can't remember right now but 2851 02:07:34,120 --> 02:07:31,250 it's like 85% of whatever this total is 2852 02:07:36,790 --> 02:07:34,130 are benevolent beings and they're here 2853 02:07:38,980 --> 02:07:36,800 to help him and to help humanity and 2854 02:07:42,670 --> 02:07:38,990 help the planet and they have these 2855 02:07:44,770 --> 02:07:42,680 messages that we need to quit destroying 2856 02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:44,780 the planet to take care of it to quit 2857 02:07:50,530 --> 02:07:47,450 fighting with each other stop the 2858 02:07:53,110 --> 02:07:50,540 warring and to have a one-world 2859 02:07:56,320 --> 02:07:53,120 government you know and they talk about 2860 02:07:59,290 --> 02:07:56,330 some other things like preparation for 2861 02:08:02,760 --> 02:07:59,300 shift to the fifth dimension and that 2862 02:08:05,580 --> 02:08:02,770 people need to work on meditation and 2863 02:08:08,200 --> 02:08:05,590 increasing their vibratory rate and 2864 02:08:10,600 --> 02:08:08,210 increase their awareness level in order 2865 02:08:13,240 --> 02:08:10,610 to interact with these other higher 2866 02:08:15,400 --> 02:08:13,250 beans that are interdimensional and he 2867 02:08:18,370 --> 02:08:15,410 says that these beans come from multiple 2868 02:08:21,189 --> 02:08:18,380 dimensions all the way from the fourth 2869 02:08:23,469 --> 02:08:21,199 dimension up to the 15th something 2870 02:08:28,359 --> 02:08:23,479 like that and he said some of them are 2871 02:08:31,209 --> 02:08:28,369 what we would call bad that they seem to 2872 02:08:34,060 --> 02:08:31,219 don't not have much of a caring 2873 02:08:36,129 --> 02:08:34,070 personality that they're more must going 2874 02:08:39,370 --> 02:08:36,139 through the motions doing a job during 2875 02:08:43,479 --> 02:08:39,380 these abductions and that the negative 2876 02:08:45,910 --> 02:08:43,489 ones are the reptilian types and one 2877 02:08:47,109 --> 02:08:45,920 type of the Grays with the big eyes that 2878 02:08:50,770 --> 02:08:47,119 there are multiple different types of 2879 02:08:53,560 --> 02:08:50,780 greys and that you know he doesn't trust 2880 02:08:57,219 --> 02:08:53,570 them but here's a strange thing here's a 2881 02:09:00,580 --> 02:08:57,229 straight thing they all like bread like 2882 02:09:02,229 --> 02:09:00,590 our bread so he started bringing after 2883 02:09:04,089 --> 02:09:02,239 the first time that they stole bread out 2884 02:09:06,040 --> 02:09:04,099 of his car he started bringing bread 2885 02:09:10,750 --> 02:09:06,050 with him and that they seemed to treat 2886 02:09:12,129 --> 02:09:10,760 him nicer and treat him better now well 2887 02:09:15,520 --> 02:09:12,139 I'll tell you what he should try to give 2888 02:09:16,779 --> 02:09:15,530 them bagels real honest-to-goodness New 2889 02:09:18,850 --> 02:09:16,789 York style bagels 2890 02:09:20,890 --> 02:09:18,860 it's very difficult to get in Arizona 2891 02:09:23,890 --> 02:09:20,900 let alone Missouri I don't know the 2892 02:09:27,520 --> 02:09:23,900 bagel availability is in your part of 2893 02:09:29,979 --> 02:09:27,530 the country but yeah one thing I wanted 2894 02:09:31,870 --> 02:09:29,989 to mention here is that this kind of 2895 02:09:34,930 --> 02:09:31,880 message about the multiple vibratory 2896 02:09:37,390 --> 02:09:34,940 levels and bad beings and good beings 2897 02:09:39,609 --> 02:09:37,400 that's a pretty standard message of 2898 02:09:41,859 --> 02:09:39,619 people have some sort of psychic 2899 02:09:45,040 --> 02:09:41,869 encounter or contact the experience 2900 02:09:47,080 --> 02:09:45,050 isn't it and I think there's some 2901 02:09:49,120 --> 02:09:47,090 there's a common thread going on here 2902 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3027 02:14:57,100 --> 02:14:55,370 believe me we're down to two segments 3028 02:14:59,590 --> 02:14:57,110 fascinating sessions starting with the 3029 02:15:02,320 --> 02:14:59,600 Kansas City UFO flap and now encounters 3030 02:15:04,290 --> 02:15:02,330 with unusual beings and wondering just 3031 02:15:06,430 --> 02:15:04,300 what they're up to are they 3032 02:15:08,800 --> 02:15:06,440 extraterrestrials from other dimensions 3033 02:15:10,930 --> 02:15:08,810 maybe there's a hidden race of beings 3034 02:15:13,720 --> 02:15:10,940 who coexist with us right here on earth 3035 02:15:16,180 --> 02:15:13,730 and they interact with us in different 3036 02:15:17,950 --> 02:15:16,190 ways for different reasons but then if 3037 02:15:20,110 --> 02:15:17,960 all this is going on this is the thing I 3038 02:15:22,570 --> 02:15:20,120 worry about when you have people who get 3039 02:15:24,760 --> 02:15:22,580 contact with higher beings if those 3040 02:15:27,040 --> 02:15:24,770 beings are so concerned about us which 3041 02:15:28,810 --> 02:15:27,050 supposedly some of them are why aren't 3042 02:15:31,780 --> 02:15:28,820 they contacting the people in charge I 3043 02:15:35,970 --> 02:15:31,790 mean if you contact farmer and you know 3044 02:15:38,830 --> 02:15:35,980 in flatwoods West Virginia or in 3045 02:15:41,050 --> 02:15:38,840 Wisconsin somewhere that's not going to 3046 02:15:44,850 --> 02:15:41,060 be taken seriously by anybody I know 3047 02:15:48,220 --> 02:15:44,860 I've had the same question myself and 3048 02:15:51,880 --> 02:15:48,230 most of the time there is no answer but 3049 02:15:54,010 --> 02:15:51,890 in Ray's case from st. Louis he said the 3050 02:15:56,350 --> 02:15:54,020 answer is that they won't listen and 3051 02:15:59,920 --> 02:15:56,360 then in other cases they have been told 3052 02:16:04,270 --> 02:15:59,930 and they're ignoring it or that they are 3053 02:16:06,430 --> 02:16:04,280 part of the negative beings and that 3054 02:16:08,470 --> 02:16:06,440 they're on the the negative side and 3055 02:16:10,540 --> 02:16:08,480 they don't want the world to know that 3056 02:16:13,840 --> 02:16:10,550 yeah why doesn't that surprise me that 3057 02:16:16,450 --> 02:16:13,850 our some of our worldly leaders are in 3058 02:16:20,590 --> 02:16:16,460 league with the reptilian David I say 3059 02:16:25,000 --> 02:16:20,600 something like that yeah yeah and you 3060 02:16:27,520 --> 02:16:25,010 know honestly I really didn't mmm really 3061 02:16:30,430 --> 02:16:27,530 didn't believe this uh you know I wasn't 3062 02:16:32,860 --> 02:16:30,440 in in a mode until about three years ago 3063 02:16:35,050 --> 02:16:32,870 to believe in the possibility that 3064 02:16:37,930 --> 02:16:35,060 reptilians could actually be here on the 3065 02:16:40,150 --> 02:16:37,940 planet and maybe even inhabiting some of 3066 02:16:42,370 --> 02:16:40,160 the human beings and controlling their 3067 02:16:44,320 --> 02:16:42,380 minds like David Icke says I just 3068 02:16:45,070 --> 02:16:44,330 thought it was you know I thought the 3069 02:16:48,490 --> 02:16:45,080 man was crazy 3070 02:16:51,160 --> 02:16:48,500 but three years ago I actually was 3071 02:16:53,050 --> 02:16:51,170 talking to a man on the street and I 3072 02:16:56,670 --> 02:16:53,060 watched his eyes ship 3073 02:17:00,760 --> 02:16:56,680 to the reptilian type and then back to 3074 02:17:03,220 --> 02:17:00,770 human-like okay okay I'd really want to 3075 02:17:06,070 --> 02:17:03,230 hear more details here okay we get 3076 02:17:08,980 --> 02:17:06,080 reptilian eyes and human eyes alright 3077 02:17:12,220 --> 02:17:08,990 describe it in more detail you know how 3078 02:17:14,890 --> 02:17:12,230 they the the pupil of the eye on a cat 3079 02:17:17,260 --> 02:17:14,900 goes up and down and that's that's what 3080 02:17:20,320 --> 02:17:17,270 ever a pillion eye does as well and it's 3081 02:17:22,451 --> 02:17:20,330 more of an oblong pointed shape than the 3082 02:17:25,960 --> 02:17:22,461 round people in the center okay I 3083 02:17:28,360 --> 02:17:25,970 watched this I shift his eyes both 3084 02:17:30,430 --> 02:17:28,370 changed to that and then change back it 3085 02:17:33,550 --> 02:17:30,440 was as if there was a cloaking device 3086 02:17:37,300 --> 02:17:33,560 over his face allowing this to happen 3087 02:17:39,911 --> 02:17:37,310 and it took that to make me realize that 3088 02:17:42,581 --> 02:17:39,921 that anything is possible yeah and 3089 02:17:43,930 --> 02:17:42,591 that's not as outrageous sounding on you 3090 02:17:46,300 --> 02:17:43,940 know obviously on the surface that 3091 02:17:47,920 --> 02:17:46,310 sounds outrageous but I personally in my 3092 02:17:50,140 --> 02:17:47,930 investigative work have had a number of 3093 02:17:53,340 --> 02:17:50,150 reports people claiming the same thing 3094 02:17:55,750 --> 02:17:53,350 and a story from dr. John Altschuler 3095 02:17:58,810 --> 02:17:55,760 whose name you might remember he worked 3096 02:18:01,750 --> 02:17:58,820 back in the 80s and 90s early to mid 90s 3097 02:18:02,880 --> 02:18:01,760 with Linda Howe with a hematologist from 3098 02:18:06,100 --> 02:18:02,890 Denver Colorado 3099 02:18:09,130 --> 02:18:06,110 he claimed he went to a a convention 3100 02:18:11,140 --> 02:18:09,140 down in Miami I think in the late 80s 3101 02:18:12,371 --> 02:18:11,150 and there was only one room left and 3102 02:18:14,890 --> 02:18:12,381 there were two people that wanted that 3103 02:18:17,621 --> 02:18:14,900 room him and some other guy they agreed 3104 02:18:20,081 --> 02:18:17,631 to share the room and in the morning he 3105 02:18:22,690 --> 02:18:20,091 his bed was just opposite the the 3106 02:18:24,670 --> 02:18:22,700 bathroom door and he noticed the guy was 3107 02:18:26,680 --> 02:18:24,680 in there like putting on contacts and 3108 02:18:29,170 --> 02:18:26,690 the guy turned and looked at him he was 3109 02:18:31,480 --> 02:18:29,180 not real he John hadn't made any move 3110 02:18:32,860 --> 02:18:31,490 motion or movement to alert the guy that 3111 02:18:34,661 --> 02:18:32,870 he was awake and the guy just kind of 3112 02:18:37,930 --> 02:18:34,671 glanced over at him and he had vertical 3113 02:18:42,281 --> 02:18:37,940 shape pupils and was putting in regular 3114 02:18:45,070 --> 02:18:42,291 contact lenses to hide the fact it takes 3115 02:18:47,411 --> 02:18:45,080 off the skin Chris takes off the skin 3116 02:18:49,840 --> 02:18:47,421 and becomes a reptilian like the TV 3117 02:18:51,310 --> 02:18:49,850 series v well I don't know about that 3118 02:18:53,531 --> 02:18:51,320 but all John said was the guy had 3119 02:18:56,320 --> 02:18:53,541 reptile eyes and it freaked him out so 3120 02:18:58,031 --> 02:18:56,330 bad he he left the room he grabbed his 3121 02:19:01,480 --> 02:18:58,041 stuff he left and did not attend the 3122 02:19:03,911 --> 02:19:01,490 conference yeah now okay so I gather 3123 02:19:06,130 --> 02:19:03,921 this is being taken real seriously here 3124 02:19:06,820 --> 02:19:06,140 we want to wonder what kind of things 3125 02:19:08,709 --> 02:19:06,830 we're seeing here 3126 02:19:11,680 --> 02:19:08,719 or maybe you know maybe they're 3127 02:19:14,260 --> 02:19:11,690 projecting something on us another 3128 02:19:16,240 --> 02:19:14,270 possibility voiced about UFOs is that 3129 02:19:18,570 --> 02:19:16,250 they are projections we're not seeing 3130 02:19:20,830 --> 02:19:18,580 the real phenomenon so if we're seeing 3131 02:19:22,959 --> 02:19:20,840 holographic images the holodeck 3132 02:19:25,390 --> 02:19:22,969 personified the holodeck being of course 3133 02:19:28,089 --> 02:19:25,400 this device they use over in Star Trek 3134 02:19:29,950 --> 02:19:28,099 next generation and the successor TV 3135 02:19:32,560 --> 02:19:29,960 series what do you think about that 3136 02:19:35,140 --> 02:19:32,570 Margie that we're seeing not a real 3137 02:19:37,300 --> 02:19:35,150 thing but some kind of presentation 3138 02:19:41,110 --> 02:19:37,310 projection or something well now you 3139 02:19:43,540 --> 02:19:41,120 just open the matrix I have you know 3140 02:19:46,000 --> 02:19:43,550 I've been pondering this and pondering 3141 02:19:49,690 --> 02:19:46,010 this and you get to a point we start to 3142 02:19:52,090 --> 02:19:49,700 wonder is anything real what are what 3143 02:19:54,970 --> 02:19:52,100 are we seeing around us is this all some 3144 02:19:57,460 --> 02:19:54,980 type of holographic projection you know 3145 02:19:59,830 --> 02:19:57,470 is there any possibility that the matrix 3146 02:20:02,080 --> 02:19:59,840 is the real thing it just goes deeper 3147 02:20:05,920 --> 02:20:02,090 and deeper everything everything is a 3148 02:20:08,140 --> 02:20:05,930 projection actually it's the brain the 3149 02:20:10,870 --> 02:20:08,150 brain generating signals that then the 3150 02:20:13,180 --> 02:20:10,880 mind interprets and we all we all sort 3151 02:20:16,270 --> 02:20:13,190 of live within a within some form of 3152 02:20:19,170 --> 02:20:16,280 consensual agreement that chairs a chair 3153 02:20:21,250 --> 02:20:19,180 the sky is blue we label everything 3154 02:20:23,261 --> 02:20:21,260 because there is a certain amount of 3155 02:20:26,230 --> 02:20:23,271 consistency but within that consistency 3156 02:20:28,330 --> 02:20:26,240 there's there is subtle you know 3157 02:20:30,790 --> 02:20:28,340 variability there's there's personal 3158 02:20:33,330 --> 02:20:30,800 bias we don't really know if each other 3159 02:20:35,530 --> 02:20:33,340 has the exact same sensory 3160 02:20:37,270 --> 02:20:35,540 interpretation we just assume that 3161 02:20:40,240 --> 02:20:37,280 everybody sees what we do in the way 3162 02:20:42,040 --> 02:20:40,250 that we do so in in some sense Margie I 3163 02:20:45,520 --> 02:20:42,050 think you're correct that this is kind 3164 02:20:47,650 --> 02:20:45,530 of a it's a construct of of sorts I mean 3165 02:20:49,960 --> 02:20:47,660 we're dealing with objects that aren't 3166 02:20:52,750 --> 02:20:49,970 really solid they're mostly they're 3167 02:20:54,400 --> 02:20:52,760 mostly negative space between between 3168 02:20:56,500 --> 02:20:54,410 atoms you know this gets into some 3169 02:20:58,810 --> 02:20:56,510 pretty heady philosophic territory which 3170 02:21:01,360 --> 02:20:58,820 I don't think we need to digress too far 3171 02:21:03,250 --> 02:21:01,370 into but but we need to be open-minded I 3172 02:21:04,660 --> 02:21:03,260 think and I think you'll agree that just 3173 02:21:06,910 --> 02:21:04,670 because it looks like a duck and quacks 3174 02:21:09,580 --> 02:21:06,920 like a duck doesn't mean it tastes like 3175 02:21:11,650 --> 02:21:09,590 one it may taste like a turkey you know 3176 02:21:14,560 --> 02:21:11,660 we do need to be open-minded we do need 3177 02:21:18,551 --> 02:21:14,570 to be creative ask better questions I'm 3178 02:21:20,560 --> 02:21:18,561 getting back to Conrad's questions what 3179 02:21:22,930 --> 02:21:20,570 do you think we've been doing right in a 3180 02:21:27,310 --> 02:21:22,940 action research and what do you think is 3181 02:21:30,430 --> 02:21:27,320 wrong well I think that we have been 3182 02:21:33,131 --> 02:21:30,440 taking some baby steps up until now and 3183 02:21:36,180 --> 02:21:33,141 that now we're starting to get a real 3184 02:21:39,671 --> 02:21:36,190 handle on what the phenomenon is what 3185 02:21:42,610 --> 02:21:39,681 thing what commonalities there are among 3186 02:21:44,700 --> 02:21:42,620 abductees because no really really 3187 02:21:48,430 --> 02:21:44,710 serious research has been done until 3188 02:21:50,530 --> 02:21:48,440 recently and Kathleen Martin just 3189 02:21:54,341 --> 02:21:50,540 completed a report and it's going to be 3190 02:21:57,160 --> 02:21:54,351 made public very shortly where they got 3191 02:21:59,530 --> 02:21:57,170 reports in from well over a hundred 3192 02:22:00,791 --> 02:21:59,540 people all right - Liam Martin is a 3193 02:22:03,070 --> 02:22:00,801 friend of the show we've had her on a 3194 02:22:04,660 --> 02:22:03,080 number of times yeah and we love talking 3195 02:22:06,850 --> 02:22:04,670 to her and she did send me the release 3196 02:22:08,830 --> 02:22:06,860 with this information so I can say we 3197 02:22:10,720 --> 02:22:08,840 haven't made any arrangements yet but I 3198 02:22:13,120 --> 02:22:10,730 am in touch with her hopefully we'll get 3199 02:22:15,791 --> 02:22:13,130 her on the show to answer so many of our 3200 02:22:18,541 --> 02:22:15,801 listener questions oh sure and that you 3201 02:22:22,360 --> 02:22:18,551 know that is a way to start I did my own 3202 02:22:25,900 --> 02:22:22,370 abduction survey over the past ten years 3203 02:22:28,360 --> 02:22:25,910 and I've got as well over a hundred 3204 02:22:31,001 --> 02:22:28,370 participants in that and I found some 3205 02:22:33,580 --> 02:22:31,011 some things that were part of my survey 3206 02:22:36,251 --> 02:22:33,590 that that she did not include in hers 3207 02:22:41,171 --> 02:22:36,261 and one of the most bizarre things that 3208 02:22:43,051 --> 02:22:41,181 is a common thread is this TMJ issue 3209 02:22:46,810 --> 02:22:43,061 with the temporal mandibular joint 3210 02:22:49,421 --> 02:22:46,820 people who are abductees seem to have a 3211 02:22:54,131 --> 02:22:49,431 large number of them seem to have issues 3212 02:22:57,791 --> 02:22:54,141 with that as well as fibromyalgia or or 3213 02:23:00,100 --> 02:22:57,801 possibly MS I mean almost every single 3214 02:23:03,041 --> 02:23:00,110 one I think there's only one that didn't 3215 02:23:04,751 --> 02:23:03,051 have something like that and I'll tell 3216 02:23:07,450 --> 02:23:04,761 you a really strange event that happened 3217 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02:29:17,920 comment to make yeah I wanted to Margie 3356 02:29:22,950 --> 02:29:19,930 too for some of our listeners who are 3357 02:29:26,460 --> 02:29:22,960 not aware of exactly what TMJ is if you 3358 02:29:28,080 --> 02:29:26,470 could describe that particular condition 3359 02:29:30,990 --> 02:29:28,090 for us oh sure 3360 02:29:33,210 --> 02:29:31,000 well it's a temporal mandibular joint 3361 02:29:35,250 --> 02:29:33,220 it's the jaw joint and it's the 3362 02:29:40,800 --> 02:29:35,260 strongest muscle in the entire body 3363 02:29:42,990 --> 02:29:40,810 around that joint and it seems that I 3364 02:29:47,490 --> 02:29:43,000 even had surgery to try to correct it 3365 02:29:50,310 --> 02:29:47,500 which didn't work but and I really don't 3366 02:29:51,480 --> 02:29:50,320 think that the doctors know the reasons 3367 02:29:53,730 --> 02:29:51,490 for this because they're just playing 3368 02:29:57,420 --> 02:29:53,740 around with experiments trying to fix 3369 02:30:01,170 --> 02:29:57,430 the problem as well as Dennis I had 3370 02:30:03,179 --> 02:30:01,180 braces four times by dentists and mouth 3371 02:30:04,880 --> 02:30:03,189 guards and just on and on and on and 3372 02:30:11,190 --> 02:30:04,890 finally the surgery trying to stop it 3373 02:30:13,770 --> 02:30:11,200 well that didn't do it so I think what 3374 02:30:16,770 --> 02:30:13,780 the public should know is that there's 3375 02:30:20,100 --> 02:30:16,780 maybe something else going on here with 3376 02:30:24,000 --> 02:30:20,110 people that have TMJ issues and if they 3377 02:30:27,030 --> 02:30:24,010 are have also had UFO encounters maybe 3378 02:30:29,640 --> 02:30:27,040 it's related we just really need to do 3379 02:30:31,020 --> 02:30:29,650 some more research on that I never heard 3380 02:30:32,730 --> 02:30:31,030 of that that particular correlation 3381 02:30:35,460 --> 02:30:32,740 before that's that's actually the 3382 02:30:35,790 --> 02:30:35,470 fascinating that's manual and something 3383 02:30:41,460 --> 02:30:35,800 every day 3384 02:30:44,850 --> 02:30:41,470 I have heard about fibromyalgia I as 3385 02:30:49,500 --> 02:30:44,860 being I think more commonly associated 3386 02:30:51,810 --> 02:30:49,510 with AB Ducky's so getting back to that 3387 02:30:54,330 --> 02:30:51,820 question now where do you come down on 3388 02:30:56,640 --> 02:30:54,340 hypnotic regression and and do you 3389 02:30:58,950 --> 02:30:56,650 really buy into that to the claims of 3390 02:31:00,630 --> 02:30:58,960 some abduction researchers or David 3391 02:31:03,150 --> 02:31:00,640 Jacobs but of course the late Budd 3392 02:31:06,600 --> 02:31:03,160 Hopkins who feel millions of people are 3393 02:31:09,150 --> 02:31:06,610 being abducted did you feel that this is 3394 02:31:10,900 --> 02:31:09,160 an accurate statement and and when you 3395 02:31:12,910 --> 02:31:10,910 come down and hypnotic regression 3396 02:31:15,070 --> 02:31:12,920 there is a viable investigative tool 3397 02:31:17,650 --> 02:31:15,080 well I think it is a viable 3398 02:31:18,551 --> 02:31:17,660 investigative tool I've undergone it 3399 02:31:21,430 --> 02:31:18,561 myself 3400 02:31:24,761 --> 02:31:21,440 and I can say that it really helps you 3401 02:31:26,761 --> 02:31:24,771 remember details whereas you know if you 3402 02:31:29,650 --> 02:31:26,771 really want to know what has happened 3403 02:31:31,150 --> 02:31:29,660 with an abduction scenario or anything 3404 02:31:33,610 --> 02:31:31,160 else 3405 02:31:37,290 --> 02:31:33,620 it really works now not everybody can be 3406 02:31:39,670 --> 02:31:37,300 hypnotized so you know it's a matter of 3407 02:31:42,370 --> 02:31:39,680 maybe having to do that over a few 3408 02:31:46,600 --> 02:31:42,380 sessions before a real deep hypnosis 3409 02:31:48,430 --> 02:31:46,610 will occur but it you know it so I 3410 02:31:50,801 --> 02:31:48,440 personally know that it works and I know 3411 02:31:52,830 --> 02:31:50,811 other people who have had it done the 3412 02:31:56,470 --> 02:31:52,840 only thing that I want to caution people 3413 02:32:00,131 --> 02:31:56,480 against is that they really need to have 3414 02:32:03,370 --> 02:32:00,141 it done by a licensed therapist who will 3415 02:32:06,220 --> 02:32:03,380 also be there in order to help you deal 3416 02:32:09,040 --> 02:32:06,230 with issues that will come up as a 3417 02:32:11,200 --> 02:32:09,050 result of the regression and the thing 3418 02:32:12,220 --> 02:32:11,210 to mention too here is you need someone 3419 02:32:13,750 --> 02:32:12,230 who is not going to ask leading 3420 02:32:15,100 --> 02:32:13,760 questions which is why you mentioned a 3421 02:32:17,530 --> 02:32:15,110 professional therapist and by the way 3422 02:32:20,560 --> 02:32:17,540 Kathleen Martin is a professional 3423 02:32:22,540 --> 02:32:20,570 therapist and she does hypnosis so 3424 02:32:23,920 --> 02:32:22,550 that's one example that's the point you 3425 02:32:25,690 --> 02:32:23,930 want to make sure somebody knows what 3426 02:32:27,551 --> 02:32:25,700 they're doing and they don't do it on 3427 02:32:30,040 --> 02:32:27,561 the telephone we've heard some abduction 3428 02:32:31,780 --> 02:32:30,050 researchers unnamed who do these things 3429 02:32:33,540 --> 02:32:31,790 on the phone like the people who live in 3430 02:32:35,801 --> 02:32:33,550 New Zealand from Philadelphia and you 3431 02:32:37,180 --> 02:32:35,811 can't do that I'm sorry folks 3432 02:32:39,670 --> 02:32:37,190 I don't think you can do that you have 3433 02:32:42,131 --> 02:32:39,680 to observe a patient's reactions if 3434 02:32:44,410 --> 02:32:42,141 somebody is that far off and needs help 3435 02:32:45,790 --> 02:32:44,420 they get help locally maybe you work 3436 02:32:47,620 --> 02:32:45,800 with a local therapist if you're a 3437 02:32:50,020 --> 02:32:47,630 researcher but that's a really big issue 3438 02:32:51,881 --> 02:32:50,030 listen we're on our last segment here 3439 02:32:54,790 --> 02:32:51,891 and there's so much ground to cover I 3440 02:32:56,770 --> 02:32:54,800 know will not get to all of it but one 3441 02:32:59,920 --> 02:32:56,780 thing that you'd mentioned I think in 3442 02:33:02,140 --> 02:32:59,930 your emails to me about weird sounds 3443 02:33:05,650 --> 02:33:02,150 being heard is this in connection with 3444 02:33:08,770 --> 02:33:05,660 UFO flap or what well I'm tending to 3445 02:33:10,511 --> 02:33:08,780 think that it is although it could be 3446 02:33:13,091 --> 02:33:10,521 something entirely different 3447 02:33:15,280 --> 02:33:13,101 all I know is that these weird tones 3448 02:33:17,261 --> 02:33:15,290 that people are hearing you know there 3449 02:33:20,080 --> 02:33:17,271 was there was a flap of these tones all 3450 02:33:21,910 --> 02:33:20,090 over the world last year that you know 3451 02:33:24,670 --> 02:33:21,920 even Debbie's signal might even got a 3452 02:33:26,979 --> 02:33:24,680 recording of it but then there was about 3453 02:33:29,620 --> 02:33:26,989 year time off and now they seem to have 3454 02:33:33,309 --> 02:33:29,630 started again especially in the Kansas 3455 02:33:35,349 --> 02:33:33,319 City area or I'm just hearing this from 3456 02:33:38,860 --> 02:33:35,359 other people and I've heard it myself my 3457 02:33:41,530 --> 02:33:38,870 husband has heard it it is a low like a 3458 02:33:44,559 --> 02:33:41,540 wah wah wah sound really deep and low 3459 02:33:47,380 --> 02:33:44,569 then there's a mid-tone that sounds like 3460 02:33:50,320 --> 02:33:47,390 something electronic and then above that 3461 02:33:54,400 --> 02:33:50,330 there's a high harmonic now you're a 3462 02:33:56,200 --> 02:33:54,410 musician you understand this yes which 3463 02:33:58,090 --> 02:33:56,210 is why I wanted to mention that just 3464 02:34:01,540 --> 02:33:58,100 yeah just just know that this is a 3465 02:34:03,910 --> 02:34:01,550 complicated tone it is not just you know 3466 02:34:07,420 --> 02:34:03,920 just a simple single tone that could be 3467 02:34:09,130 --> 02:34:07,430 maybe bc created by something digital or 3468 02:34:12,519 --> 02:34:09,140 you know whatever 3469 02:34:15,280 --> 02:34:12,529 in fact the other night this is just a 3470 02:34:17,800 --> 02:34:15,290 week ago my husband said i'm in bed at 3471 02:34:19,450 --> 02:34:17,810 12:30 he says what's that sound and I 3472 02:34:21,130 --> 02:34:19,460 listened and I and I heard the tone 3473 02:34:23,679 --> 02:34:21,140 again if I'd been telling him that I've 3474 02:34:26,920 --> 02:34:23,689 been hearing this thing he's just at the 3475 02:34:28,660 --> 02:34:26,930 Train and I said no and I went to open 3476 02:34:32,769 --> 02:34:28,670 the window and we listened and listened 3477 02:34:35,050 --> 02:34:32,779 and it definitely was not a train so 3478 02:34:36,910 --> 02:34:35,060 other people are reporting the same sort 3479 02:34:38,559 --> 02:34:36,920 of thing they're calling it a horn sound 3480 02:34:43,000 --> 02:34:38,569 that's not like any horn they've ever 3481 02:34:46,450 --> 02:34:43,010 heard in their life in some cases it's 3482 02:34:51,969 --> 02:34:46,460 being heard over phone lines or through 3483 02:34:54,340 --> 02:34:51,979 Skype but then but not just from outside 3484 02:34:56,110 --> 02:34:54,350 a lot of times people hear it outside 3485 02:34:58,420 --> 02:34:56,120 only and not inside but they can't 3486 02:35:00,939 --> 02:34:58,430 determine a direction that it's coming 3487 02:35:03,939 --> 02:35:00,949 from and there's a lot of speculation I 3488 02:35:05,860 --> 02:35:03,949 mean maybe it's UFO related maybe it has 3489 02:35:07,269 --> 02:35:05,870 something to do with this harmonic 3490 02:35:10,090 --> 02:35:07,279 convergence that people are talking 3491 02:35:14,130 --> 02:35:10,100 about and this movement into the fifth 3492 02:35:16,360 --> 02:35:14,140 dimension as we approach December 21st I 3493 02:35:18,340 --> 02:35:16,370 made a few changes this has been a 3494 02:35:20,590 --> 02:35:18,350 really disrupting year for a lot of 3495 02:35:22,870 --> 02:35:20,600 people myself and certainly Chris now I 3496 02:35:25,450 --> 02:35:22,880 ask you though with these sounds we have 3497 02:35:26,800 --> 02:35:25,460 recordings of a 10 you get us copies of 3498 02:35:29,380 --> 02:35:26,810 the recordings we can run them on the 3499 02:35:33,660 --> 02:35:29,390 air or posts in our forums I can 3500 02:35:37,210 --> 02:35:33,670 probably get you a copy of one recording 3501 02:35:38,380 --> 02:35:37,220 and yeah I'll get that and be glad to 3502 02:35:39,939 --> 02:35:38,390 send it to you 3503 02:35:42,160 --> 02:35:39,949 okay I appreciate that very much I think 3504 02:35:45,130 --> 02:35:42,170 we're going to want all the sound 3505 02:35:47,320 --> 02:35:45,140 recording experts on our staff including 3506 02:35:48,939 --> 02:35:47,330 Chris who has been involved in audio and 3507 02:35:50,740 --> 02:35:48,949 video production himself for a number of 3508 02:35:52,990 --> 02:35:50,750 years so listen to it to see what's 3509 02:35:55,149 --> 02:35:53,000 going on to see where the sound might be 3510 02:35:57,040 --> 02:35:55,159 generated now this is nothing that 3511 02:35:59,410 --> 02:35:57,050 somebody could hoax 3512 02:36:02,830 --> 02:35:59,420 I wouldn't think anybody could hoax it 3513 02:36:05,889 --> 02:36:02,840 especially with the tones that are being 3514 02:36:08,320 --> 02:36:05,899 heard outside they can't be located yeah 3515 02:36:10,809 --> 02:36:08,330 it's too widespread and to survey it's 3516 02:36:14,260 --> 02:36:10,819 like like asking could somebody have 3517 02:36:17,920 --> 02:36:14,270 been hosting the Taos home or the Kokomo 3518 02:36:20,500 --> 02:36:17,930 home or any number of you know fairly 3519 02:36:22,330 --> 02:36:20,510 airtimes fairly consistent sounds that a 3520 02:36:24,760 --> 02:36:22,340 certain percentage of people can hear 3521 02:36:28,660 --> 02:36:24,770 again as Margie will probably agree 3522 02:36:32,830 --> 02:36:28,670 not everybody can hear Lisa you you tend 3523 02:36:34,990 --> 02:36:32,840 to have some sort of election to to be 3524 02:36:38,160 --> 02:36:35,000 able to hear it I think when they did 3525 02:36:41,170 --> 02:36:38,170 this survey Los Alamos was asked by uh 3526 02:36:44,050 --> 02:36:41,180 then congressman Bill Richardson to do a 3527 02:36:46,510 --> 02:36:44,060 survey in the Taos area and I think they 3528 02:36:48,820 --> 02:36:46,520 came up with 27% I think of the people 3529 02:36:51,300 --> 02:36:48,830 surveyed claimed that they were able to 3530 02:36:53,950 --> 02:36:51,310 hear the Taos hum which leaves you know 3531 02:36:56,170 --> 02:36:53,960 73% of the people couldn't hear it so 3532 02:36:59,439 --> 02:36:56,180 this isn't something that and it's very 3533 02:37:01,149 --> 02:36:59,449 difficult to record as well at least the 3534 02:37:05,590 --> 02:37:01,159 Taos hum is because it's such a low 3535 02:37:08,410 --> 02:37:05,600 frequency low you know very deep and not 3536 02:37:10,630 --> 02:37:08,420 very strong signal not just the 3537 02:37:13,059 --> 02:37:10,640 recording process there is a playback 3538 02:37:15,070 --> 02:37:13,069 process where the sound systems that 3539 02:37:19,630 --> 02:37:15,080 most people have cannot reproduce really 3540 02:37:21,969 --> 02:37:19,640 low frequencies your iPod oh yes even 3541 02:37:23,229 --> 02:37:21,979 the you know the new ear pods that Apple 3542 02:37:26,889 --> 02:37:23,239 came out with has something called ear 3543 02:37:29,860 --> 02:37:26,899 pod which is a new kind of specially 3544 02:37:31,719 --> 02:37:29,870 shaped earphones okay that's supposed to 3545 02:37:33,399 --> 02:37:31,729 reproduce bass frequencies better but 3546 02:37:35,740 --> 02:37:33,409 dimes to doughnuts I bet there's a lot 3547 02:37:37,660 --> 02:37:35,750 that it won't be able to reproduce I say 3548 02:37:40,660 --> 02:37:37,670 this because one time long time ago I 3549 02:37:42,070 --> 02:37:40,670 had these amazing loudspeakers from a 3550 02:37:44,260 --> 02:37:42,080 friend of mine the audio business Bob 3551 02:37:46,870 --> 02:37:44,270 Carr for what you call amazing and they 3552 02:37:49,870 --> 02:37:46,880 get down and deep the thing was six foot 3553 02:37:52,059 --> 02:37:49,880 high yeah yeah you're talking your 3554 02:37:54,309 --> 02:37:52,069 headphones and iPods and that sort 3555 02:37:57,329 --> 02:37:54,319 no doesn't think they can't get below 3556 02:37:58,510 --> 02:37:57,339 really of a hundred cycles their life 3557 02:38:00,639 --> 02:37:58,520 Angeles 3558 02:38:03,670 --> 02:38:00,649 sure Margie K tell us where we'd get 3559 02:38:06,609 --> 02:38:03,680 more of your stuff oh just go to my 3560 02:38:10,210 --> 02:38:06,619 website at margie kay dot-com it's narG 3561 02:38:12,670 --> 02:38:10,220 IE ka y dot-com and of course missouri 3562 02:38:14,649 --> 02:38:12,680 MUFON also has a site but we have links 3563 02:38:18,579 --> 02:38:14,659 at the para cast calm the Margie site 3564 02:38:22,059 --> 02:38:18,589 and also to Missouri MUFON this has been 3565 02:38:24,189 --> 02:38:22,069 an exciting session folks I really enjoy 3566 02:38:26,349 --> 02:38:24,199 it so much ground to cover and there's a 3567 02:38:28,119 --> 02:38:26,359 lot more she's doing that book on the 3568 02:38:29,800 --> 02:38:28,129 Kansas City UFO flap we'll look forward 3569 02:38:32,619 --> 02:38:29,810 to it and get her back when that happens 3570 02:38:35,920 --> 02:38:32,629 you can reach us by the way at the power 3571 02:38:38,109 --> 02:38:35,930 cast on Twitter or the power cast comm 3572 02:38:41,590 --> 02:38:38,119 which is our website Chris we can also 3573 02:38:44,139 --> 02:38:41,600 find you at our strange planet com new 3574 02:38:46,269 --> 02:38:44,149 updates coming shortly margie kay thanks 3575 02:38:52,250 --> 02:38:46,279 for joining us on the power cast well 3576 02:38:58,520 --> 02:38:55,270 [Music] 3577 02:39:01,821 --> 02:38:58,530 the para cast featuring Jim Steinberg 3578 02:39:04,691 --> 02:39:01,831 and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted 3579 02:39:08,421 --> 02:39:04,701 presentation of making the impossible